[Hilly]

Sunday – Cardio done and rest day – All meals in and out with Arilena from around 1pm – we went to a signing show and kids day it a local pub and then to park.

All meals in –

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[Hilly]

I think alot of this seems to be due to a variance in peoples genetic response and how they are testing bloods.

for Example ive seen myself 2 clients all running the same Test C from the same source on the same cruise dose of 150mg.

Results were

41
36
72

Its something ive almost decided to stop focusing – trying to judge how well test is dosed via blood work and prefer to try and look at testing like Kuba mentions because it constantly drives me crazy seeing so much variance in blood work that there is no logical explanation for outside of either human error or testing timing etc or simply genetic response.

unless there is also a wild swing in how the dosing goes from batch to batch which I never factored in and doesnt seem to be likely to me but could be another explanation

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[Hilly]

I would not over think the ester here at all and just switch keeping injection schedule normal

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Sat – 217lb and holding well

all meals in – Cardio done

Trained back with 2 clients and was a great session.

Rope cable pull over – x 10, x 13F
Overhand pull down – x 8, x 8F
1 arm HS pull down – x 8, x 7F
smith row – x 8, x 9F
Chest supported upper back row row – x 8, x 5F with 2 drop sets
1 arm HS row – x 8, x 10F
V grip cable row – 2 x 15-20 reps
Shrugs – 2 x 12-15F –

great workout – Strength was good – pumps crazy good – no niggles to note

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[Hilly]

I agree with all above – I would do a week at 2300kcal per day and then asses how you feel and come back down slowly

Nice one Hilly, generally I’m aiming to get anywhere between 15-19% BF before beginning to go into a surplus. I’d say right now I’m low 20’s. I was aiming to have visible abs and have built a decent base with lifting before going into a surplus and building some size. Is that a good point to aim for and start with a surplus or would it be more beneficial with me being still in the ‘newbie gains stage’ to start bulking sooner than that and losing the rest excess fat later down the line? [/quote]
I would not want to grow unless I was 15% or under

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[Hilly]

Friday – 217.5lb – little gain here.

Visually look is still nice and lean

total rest day today – just cardio and flat out working all day

All meals in

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[Hilly]

How do I decide which sleep product to use?

TBJP dream sleep is always my first and main go to

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for most people its just about getting leaner IME

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[Hilly]

I agree with all above – I would do a week at 2300kcal per day and then asses how you feel and come back down slowly

Nice one Hilly, generally I’m aiming to get anywhere between 15-19% BF before beginning to go into a surplus. I’d say right now I’m low 20’s. I was aiming to have visible abs and have built a decent base with lifting before going into a surplus and building some size. Is that a good point to aim for and start with a surplus or would it be more beneficial with me being still in the ‘newbie gains stage’ to start bulking sooner than that and losing the rest excess fat later down the line? [/quote]
I would want you under 15% and as lean as you can get to be honest before you start growing –

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If running a PCT then you do this properly and come off until your hormones fully recover :). Then you go again

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Thursday – no weight taken –

i woke up feeling like I had been hit by a bus which is normal post legs and sleep was terrible –

Cardio done
All work done
all meals in

Had to have a nap this afternoon which was supposed to be 45 minutes and turned into 3 hours lol.

i am going to switch sessions round potentially so I trained chest/delts wed and legs thurs and into a rest day Friday –

Im also going to get something stronger to help my sleep post legs as just nothing seems to help

i did however have a decent delts/chest session today.

Y raises – dropped weight back on here and tightened form – x 8, x 9F, x 13G
Rear delts on cables – x 8, x 9F with a drop set – up in weight
Seated Db lateral – x 8, x 11F, x 13F – up in reps
Seated DB front raises – reset form – x 8, x 11F, x 9F
Metabolic Delt work

pec dec – x 8, x 13F, x 11F
Machine press – x 8, x 11F, x 16F – up in weight
Chest focused dips – x 8, x 11F, x 9F – up in weight

10 minutes on stairs

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I agree with the above – dial in could work very well here and is really suited for this situation as it will help increase of focus/concentration and energy IME. I use this for work blocks also

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[Hilly]

I agree with all above – I would do a week at 2300kcal per day and then asses how you feel and come back down slowly

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food choices/macros etc look fine to me. The next thing is just how this all digests and how it makes you feel in the gym.

I would also want TBJP EAA pre gym or MPS max personally to.

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[Hilly]

Sounds very sensible to me.

i wuld run 300mg per week – no less and get those bloods done at week 6-8.

I really dont feel you should cruise instantly from a first cycle – I feel all should PCT and learn to come off and manage this situation especially at 23 years old. The longer you stay shut down the harder it will be to recover your endocrine system as you get older but this is just my opinion.

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