[Hilly]

Sunday – up at 3am to fly back from Alicante –

Landed 8am UK time – got 4.5 hours sleep last night and another 2 on the plane so not bad at all. Had to the sort washing house and do food shop before training and then getting Arilena back at 1pm.

had a great fathers day with her, she’s now in bed finally and im about to get an earlier night

Steps high but no direct cardio with travel.

Meals have been decent – not 100% but not far off which considering travel is great.

Training was actually pretty dam good

OH rope pulls – 3 x 10-15 reps – last 1 to failure
Wide overhand PD – x 8, x 8, x 9F
1 arm HS PD – x 8, x 7F
1 x HS standing row – x 8, x6F
Seated Cable upper back row – x 8, x 7F with 2 drop sets

Volume back to base for this week – food will drop back lowish as I drop any water etc from the travel and time off plan and then its time to grow as we are now week 4 of this cycle.

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[Hilly]

Sat – morning cardio done while here in spain

Trained delts/chest – wasn’t exciting but wasn’t to bad – Cant wait to get back home 2moro and get back into routine now.

Meal plan as it has been last 3 days – 3 solid higher protein meals and 1 shake

early flight today – up at 3am and airport for 4 – should be back in uk for 8am all being well

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[Hilly]

its simply down to using blood work to find out what is causing the gyno and then addressing your cycle design so this doesn’t happen.

Other option is simply getting it cut out

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[Hilly]

Hey are you based in the UK if so the university of Liverpool hospital does them

Yes I am. I will take a look now. Thanks Meg. [/quote]
let me know how this goes please bud as i want to get this done to and have not really found anywere close to me to get done

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[Hilly]

Yeh i would say start driving output up personally – fasted cardio and get those steps up – sometimes fat loss is just stubborn and its a simple answer of doing more or eating less to get it moving – I would always opt for most people to do more before they eat less

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[Hilly]

its impossible for us to tell you what drugs you will personally need to gain that much stage weight – as even with loads of drugs some won’t gain 8-10 solid pound of muscle in 24 weeks – it depends on were you are now, your genetic response and how your body copes with what it takes to eat and train during that time.

Personally for me I would want to be looking too gain 4-6lb per month over that period of time.
I would want a little more drugs and would defo have primo in there at 150mg personally

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[Hilly]

I personally dont see a need to let blood here with these numbers – unless BP is high ?

I would make sure you are using TBJP love heart and heart care ASAP in all doses as well as vital support as ALT looks raised to me to

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no source providing on the. Board bud

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this has occured as masteron just doesnt work like primo in terms of lowering E2 –

why did you switch from 1 to the other – for me it makes more sense to switch back to primo than adding an AI in personally

i would either switch back as you wee or simply add in 150mg primo on top as a step forward to the cycle

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[Hilly]

Friday – so Wed/thurs/friday I have just taken some rest -worked and tried to spend less time on my phone and away from work – its rare I get to do this and its been a super busy start to the year with clients and other stuff going on so its been nice to have a little down time.

No training done
Cardio has been done here in Spain. – lots of steps and walking.
Meals have been healthy and clean but relaxed – this will continue 2moro and then im locked back in from sunday once home at 9am

i will train 2moro. – chest/delts – train back sat and thats my 4 sessions in this week

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Not a fan of mk677. As we all have stated in almost every thread on here regarding the drug

It just seems to ruin insulin sensitivity and cause huge water retention.

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[Hilly]

for me personally.

mast – makes me feel better when using other drugs, increases free test – in a prep seems to give a better look

EQ – controls E2 super well, I feel good on it and it seems to increase performance in terms of endurance which will be from the slight increase in RBC

Primo – controls E2 ok but not as effective as EQ – ideal for when running lower doses/cruise –

i cant say I truly notice much of a difference with the look between the drugs if im doing things right to control E2 as that for most dictates the look.

Total mg of drugs dictates more to muscle growth than specific drugs and its almost impossible to say which works better for me.

blood work is always the same with any of these drugs in TBH over the years

For me there purposes comes down to – how well they control E2 and how well an individual reacts to each one – Exactly the same as any other drug

very curious about EQ and if it lowers estrogen in everyone or is it just some people? As i got hold on big amount of bold cyp 200mg and the pip aint too bad so I can live with that. How long will it be till I can eventually feel the estrogen lowering efffect? is it invidually, or once its saturated like 3-5 weeks as any other cypionate ester?
As mast and primo kills my hair. I aromatize quite heavily and gets sensitive nips easily so i stay away from tren and npp unfortunately as that makes everything way worse. I love test/primo test/mast.

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Seems to be for the majority IME but not everyone – you should be able to see on bloods by week 5-6

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Ive heard kefei are decent

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[Hilly]

Tuesday – Day with Arilena – scooter, soft play and then to a theatre show – the tiger who came to tea. Had the best day and then dropped her at her Mums at around 5 so I could get sorted to fly early hour 2moro.

Managed to squeeze a late leg session in so I dont have to try and do it in Spain however did it at lloyds and it was very average due to how busy the gym was and not worth noting.

No cardio today.

All meals in.

Off to try and get some sleep now as got to be up at 2:30 so if im lucky ill get 3 hours but im going to sleep on the plane to.

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[Hilly]

I can see reasoning for it – you’ll Likely be getting enough fats from the meats/eggs being used and glycogen is more of a suitable fuel source for us than fats.

Its quite common with some of the American and further afield coaches to pull all fats out earlier. So this TBH wouldn’t worry me personally if your an assisted athlete.

I personally wouldn’t do it for myself or a client unless they were in a bad starting point.

What I am most worried about is if you prefer a John jewitt approach why you didnt hire him or one of his coaches tho.

same with the fruit – you will find some coaches prefer to pull these sources out and opt for food sources that replenish muscle glycogen over lier glycogen – the focus comes down to look and performance not health.

I mean if your using gear at a competitive level how much to do you think a little fruit will help in terms of nutrients in preventing things from the AAS.

I dont pull them this early at all but they will be pulled before other carbs get to low for sure.

Its one of those things were people just do things differently, I do really agree both of these changes at 16 weeks out if your in a good spot seem very drastic to me but im presuming the guy has superb results and comes across that he has alot of knowledge hence hiring him so his methods obviously work well.

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