[Hilly]

Hello mate

Fasted I do it with the normal vacuum poses

And then I do vacuum holds non fasted (cause we need real stage conditions here, we will probably never be really fasted on stage lol)

At different moments of the day

Post breakfast, lunch or before bed with full day of meals and water

The fasted vacuum i do think it helps you to connect with your midsection and helps waking up the digestive system and evacuation imo

Then i do feel more connected with my midsection throughout the day

And so I am more mindful at the gym.

But practicing it with full belly on posing DEF is a game changer for me.

No matter your stage peak, lot of water or food; practicing it this way will help you controling it on stage no matter what happen on your waistline on stage

Also you do practice your stamina/cardio/endurance this way

Fantastic post

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[Hilly]

Not entirely sure where the 250 to 500mcg dose ranges people are stating actually come from? There’s no human data on this at all, so every number in here is guessed off the mouse work. Scale that properly (surface area, not bodyweight) and you’re in the tens-to-low-hundreds of mg not mcg, which is where the 50mg tablets come from. The mcg number isn’t pharmacology, it’s 332 getting sold next to peptides when it isn’t one.

Personally I noticed nothing from 250-500mcg and started to notice improved fasted cardio performance and lower heart rate with a singular change of dosage from 500mcg to 5mg. I know a few people running upwards of 10mg daily with similar results.

I dread to think how id feel of 5mg lol![/quote]
You’d likely feel nothing… the sweating and other things you mention are either placebo or something else you are using or something else in the capsule as this isn’t how slu works… its not a stimulant.. it remodels how you body burns fuel over a period of weeks. [/quote]
Yes it changes how the body uses fuel and increases metabolic rate.

If you don’t think this is going to Increase core temperature and this sweating I’d say you don’t understand how the body works however I doubt this is true. You should see certain things from SLU based on how it works within the body. One of the main things being an increase in sweating

For extra clarity a simple google search

SLU-PP-332 increases core temperature primarily through mitochondrial uncoupling. By acting as an exercise mimetic that stimulates Estrogen-Related Receptors (ERRs), it accelerates fatty acid oxidation and ramps up the metabolic rate. This increased inefficiency causes the mitochondria to burn more fuel to generate the same amount of cellular energy, with the excess calories being dissipated as heat rather than stored as ATP

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[Hilly]

Not entirely sure where the 250 to 500mcg dose ranges people are stating actually come from? There’s no human data on this at all, so every number in here is guessed off the mouse work. Scale that properly (surface area, not bodyweight) and you’re in the tens-to-low-hundreds of mg not mcg, which is where the 50mg tablets come from. The mcg number isn’t pharmacology, it’s 332 getting sold next to peptides when it isn’t one.
Personally I noticed nothing from 250-500mcg and started to notice improved fasted cardio performance and lower heart rate with a singular change of dosage from 500mcg to 5mg. I know a few people running upwards of 10mg daily with similar results.

Well I would hope from the dosages we all have used as here we only speak from personal experience bud.

Myself plus clients have found 300-1200mcg effective. Obviously the higher the dose the more effect.

I’ve never had 1 person go higher than 1200mcg so far. I’ve heard of others doing it with success but so far not had the need to

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[Hilly]

I can’t

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[Hilly]

in the majority of people both EQ and primo will reduce E2 and it will show on blood work yes. How much is of course individual to each person.

It is masteron that blocks it from binding to the receptor but does n to directly lower

Thank you, much appreciated,

I tend to hyper respond to test, low doses get me to high blood levels, problem is estrogen rises aswell, should i still run 1:3 ratio with test and eq/primo or do you advise upping the eq ?

I plan a 600mg test, 300mg eq

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I would go the test / EQ based on this info as you laid out.

Potentially first 2 weeks just run

300mg test 300 EQ
300mg test 300 eq
600mg test 300 eq
Repeat

Give EQ a little time to take effect

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[Hilly]

No reason at all why you cant do this if as you say all stays good.

Most people may well run into issues quite quickly but not all and if your happy to do this and manage rest days based on as your body feedback tells you then there is no reason not to do it.

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I’d wait to get all the clear first bud and the consider low dose primo if your not risk adverse

Fully agree here also

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[Hilly]

As a base start point I tend to sit make clients at

1g per meal of sea salt plus an additional 1-2g around training.

so it tends to work out at

Training days – 7-8G
Rest day – 5-6G

Those with more muscle mass or signs they may need more we then increase it and at times look to add in potassium etc also

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[Hilly]

There are several possibilities.

if you have used the same lab but different batches then there could be variance batch to batch.

if its a different lab then they could be using a different carrier oil or solvent percentage etc.

Test prop in general is more likely to cause Pip for most people than other esters also FYI. Some people cant touch the stuff at all full stop

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[Hilly]

in the majority of people both EQ and primo will reduce E2 and it will show on blood work yes. How much is of course individual to each person.

It is masteron that blocks it from binding to the receptor but does n to directly lower

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[Hilly]

Personally I would start at 400mcg on wake fasted if the goal is fat loss.

if you are using it in a growth phase to potentially help stay a little leaner then 200mcg on wake.

As per Kuba post if adding a second dose I would be pre or post depending on time you train.

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I also completely agree, I would want to see you do all you can over time to try and bring your natural testosterone levels up.

how long have you been in a surplus for and then rechecked?
What else haver you tried to bring testosterone levels up?

were is current kcal intake and what is macro break down?

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[Hilly]

Sunday/Monday/Tuesday all rest days due to being away at a Wedding. Back to training 2moro

I am also changing my split so I will be just hitting each body part once per week for a while. I am really enjoying this current set up but my tendons are still not back to normal and so this is the very last thing to change and see if it helps

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[Hilly]

Personally, I’d swap your days around. You’d then get 2 x rest days before your hack session.

I’d also move adductors to after your quad movements. Specific to me, but I think you’d benefit from it given that your knees ache of late.

Sessions look good, just give it a go and regulate it based on recovery.

I also fully agree here

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Thank you, sir, certainly I think your practical experience is far more valuable than my speculation. Out of curiosity, in these athletes, are their cruise doses still oftentimes supraphysiological? If this is so, and they continue making dramatic progress, then clearly the notion that AAS desensitization exists in any real sense is somewhat debunked.

I dont believe any one ever claims to still be making progress on a cruise really and I they are I would then argue they were doing something wrong on cycle or there gear was bunk.

I I mean of course there may be the odd person who shifts factors and I do this with clients but in reality I certainly dont expect any one to keep making progress in terms of muscle growth on a cruise even if it is over your usual TRT dose.

the actual dose depends on the client and immediate focus but 95% of the time my clients are cruising on 200-300mg total AAS load which I like the new age term sports TRT/Cruise for

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