[Hilly]

good work on improving your test levels naturally – that is a very good read.

I would make sure to add in TBJP heart care to bring down that LDL.

my recommendation would be 250mg test and 100mg primo split MWF based on were your current testosterone to E2 ratio is to your E2 doesn’t trend to high.

you could just run the test and asses were your bloods are in 6 weeks time but for me I would be going with this first

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[Hilly]

totally agree with Kuba – 0 need to taper down at all – the drugs will do this themselves due to half life

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[Hilly]

if its pretty new then simply dropping back down to TRT and reducing the cause which is likely E2 being to high will help reduce/ get rid o the issue.

you will then need to design cycles in the future to make sure E2 remains lower

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Saturday

Cardio done – 35 minutes

all meals in

Trained back and a very good session indeed

Rope pull overs – x 10,x10, x 9F

chest supported row – x 8, x 6F, x 12F

1 arm Pull down -x 8, x 10F

seated upper back row – x 8, x 9F

overhand pull downs – x 8, x 11F

V grip cable row with a super stretch in the lengthened position – 1 x 20F

Strength was very good, pump was good and body felt great while training.

out for food tonight

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Friday – usual cardio done

Rest day food

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Which beef isolate do you get hilly

NXt one when needed – I go through stages of using it as im still not sure of how effective or worth while using it is but my digestion will only allow so much vegan whey.

I do spike it with TBJP EAA to make sure im getting what I need

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[Hilly]

this is really OTT thinking for me.

Jordan has explained it quite clearly.

There are also factors such as what are you training that day and how your output is and recovery demands.

if your eating and doing exactly what it takes to hold your weight to the letter – your still training super heavy and you add in a 300kcal cookie you may not gain any fat at all – your body may need/use it for recovery benefits.

if your eating way over your needs then you will store more fat.

the fact you think that a certain part of the cookie will be stored as fat or you can work it our as a percentage is strange to me. your body simply works on the total that is digested and balances it out over time – any excess being stored as fat if its totally not needed.

it doesn’t just see a cookie being eaten and think hhmmm ok 25% of that can fuel gym coming up, 25% can fuel the recovery after and you know what he shouldn’t be eating a cookie so ill store 50% as fat .

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Yeh, im with J here.

I like to heat the oil up pre inject and do my jabs earlier in the day so there is more movement post injection which really seems to help

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Food updates – from 2moro food will be pulled back again

T days –

meal 1 – still 1 scoop TBJP vegan whey and 250ml egg whites with 75g oats (50g rest days) and 100g berries

meals 2/3 – 200g cooked chicken, 150g cooked basmati rice instead of 200g cooked jasmine rice – no additional oils here –

meal 4 – 250g raw weight lean steak, 150g cooked basmati rice

meal 5 – still 1 scoop TBJP vegan whey and 250ml egg whites

peri workout

25g carbs intra – 50g carbs PWO all from performance fuel and 50g protein from a beef isolate as I cant use milk at all

Rest days will be the same however oats down to 50g – rice down to 125g and instead of the pro nutrition I will have a shake and nut butter meal. – keeping protein and fats the same but carbs taking a drop. – this is just very easy for me to follow when I have Arilena as most of my rest days are then an also will allow me to step forward the fat loss –

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Thursday – No cardio done on wake as I woke super late – I am going to have to add in some form of sleeping tablet Wednesday the night off training legs as it does not matter what I do my sleep is just terrible and this has been going on for years I think

I was literally up 12:30am, 2:45Am and 4:15 am and then slept till 7am which is annoying as I start my day at 5am usually so was behind.

yesterday I took Unwind post legs – dream sleep pre bed, melatonin 10mg and GH – doesn’t seem to matter what I do my sleep is just a no go and its only ever post legs.

anyway – all meals in today – Weight sat at 217 post higher day yesterday.

Training delts today – going to train chest 2moro and back Friday as I am Getting Arilena back early sunday so wont be able to train. not ideal but needs must.

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[Hilly]

Echo what has been said above.

if you are still progressing in other lifts and you are growing and enjoying doing them then keep track and keep them in – for me personally I would never have additional intensity stuff in on more than 1-2 exercises per body part in that session and this would again depend on how I had approached the exercise and layout of the session.

if your trying to do less total work sets and keep time in the gym limited then sometimes more can help in your overall goal.

if your not then keep them to a movement either at the start to pre fatigue or at the end to sort of volumise and finish off the muscle group.

for example – if I train legs I may use them on ham curls and extensions so I can get away with a little less load and total work when I am doing compound exercises.

for Shoulders/chest that I am trying to bring up I will use them to add more volume post heavy progression stuff in the workout as bring more blood volume into the muscle.

its not a case really of just adding them in for the sake but having rhyme and reason for doing so IMO

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completely agree with those above – try again and mention that you are not happy and if things cant be discussed/explained and rectified then you would like refunding for the remainder of the coaching –

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ive just had a client go from an eGFR of 59 to 72 simply by taking the week of rest etc

so the fact yours has gotten worse may indicate some form of issue for sure but it may not. its impossible for us to advise any further here bud – this is were the specialist does his/her job 🙂

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You have to understand what the drugs are doing and then find out were you feel best.

So some will feel better in terms of sex drive/mood etc with E2 lower while others will feel better in these areas with those numbers higher.

the trick is on finding were you feel best and how to stay there as easily as possible – for example I feel fantastic on 50mg Test e MWF – I have some clients that need a little primo with this while others feel great just on a straight 125mg per week in 1 inject

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what did the 6-800mg look like in terms of compounds and mg per compound.

as J says you may of been controlling E2 very well there and now you are not

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