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IMHO i dont use personally and have never noticed much when i add it in however I also dont feel anything from adding it in.

Were as some people do seem to feel something from it and those seem to notice a benefit.

I tend to use it with natural clients that cant use other fat burning aids

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have you read the Pct sticky by doctor dean in this section. It covers all in there 🙂

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Thank you for the VN buddy, yeah definitely agree with you and the other water needs to go up, its dropped from where it was previously so that is the first point of call.
You mentioned something as a suggestion to add 20/30g to each meal but didn’t quite catch what that was if you wouldn’t mind confirming.
Thanks again to everyone

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Fresh Raw sauerkraut bud

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did you take some rest days before the test? did you drop out any creatine intake?

if not i would make sure to take more rest – 3-4 days from the gym, drop creatine intake and reduce protein and you will likely see this number drop.

Are you taking TBJP vital support for kidney health etc?

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Friday – Cardio done on wake – still full of cold but felt better today.

All meals in

Trained delts/chest. Was a pretty good session.

1 arm cable laterals – x 8, x 8F, x 15F
Standing Db laterals – x 8, x 8F with 2 drop sets

Incline chest press – x 6, x 6, x 6F with 2 drop sets
Seated chest press – x 8, x8F, x 8F with 2 drop sets
Chest focused dips – x 15, x 15F, x 12F
Pec Dec – 3 x 8 with 20 seconds rest between sets

10 minutes on stairs PWO

Getting leaner pretty quick – No changes to overall AAs use and food is sat similar – not been taking any clen so far as simply left it out as rate of loss was good.

Going to push a little harder this week and then im in centre parcs for the week with Arilena so will likely take the full week off to spend the time with her.

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Not sure what’s going on as I updated this yest.

Thursday – cardio was done but I was ill so choose to rest – all meals in

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Defo do not go with the aromasin and Caber – look at altering your cycle design based off these and how you feel.

If you dont have any high E2 sides then as the guys have said above there really isn’t an actually issue. However if you do then I would pull the test back to 400mg and add in 2-300mg primo – so your total dose is the same as it is on the 600mg test – this should bring E2 down and thus prolactin.

i would also as Kuba says look to increase induction frequency

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Wednesday. -leg day –

No cardio done on wake so this was done pre meal 6 as Arilena was p early.

All meals in

Trained legs – Was a decent session considering im still chock full of cold

Seated ham curls – x 8, x 8F
Extensions – x 8, x 8, x 15F
1 leg leg press – x 8, x8, x 8F
Hip press – x 8, x 8F – weight up here from last week.
lay ham curls – x 8, x 11F
Adductor – x 8, x 15F

Volume still kept low – Was a good session overall and strength was good.

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Hmg with increase sperm production on cycle directly – 75iu MWF

Getting your hormones sorted will improve libido – high E2 may be the issue here

HMG can be use together with the ped cycle ???

This days is little better … believe was from very high estradiol … make the injections in micro dose every day and put and little primo with half mast … and start to feel better and lower sperm believe was from low libido … now start to be better …

But it’s necessary the HMG. To use it in cycle… HMG believe was to use it for fertility therapy with hcg when one person want to try for kids … [/quote]

your not making alot of sense here buddy.

You asked how to combat low sperm – HMG will do this

Improving hormones so E2 is in a better range will improve libido.

Using AAS shuts down both you LH and FSH levels – if you want better sperm you need FSH levels up and the only direct way to do that is to take HMG[/quote]

For how long period can use the HMG?? But I use whole year ped after blast continue with trt … the LH and FSH will be zero forever …

In your opinion HMG can be used for some months every year ?? (3 times per week ?[/quote]
U would be using the HMG for as long as I wanted my sperm count to be elevated – Simply as soon as you stop using it, FSH levels will drop and thus sperm count all drop back down.

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Agree with the guys above – if there are no other issues and your making good progress I would be happy my appetite was low TBH and I wasn’t craving anything

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Your issue here is not test it’s self it’s just high aromatisation rates,

Low dose test

Mast

Nandrolone

Would work incredibly well instead and you’d feel better as opposed to no test base.

Using dbol and anadrol you are basically taking test, so I would just do 150’mg test as a base instead,

Drugs alone you won’t really recomp well, diet for first half hard to lose some bf and then bring it up a touch.

No as for 1 the Dbol is providing the E2 you need and in general masteron doesn’t really lower E2 that much it just helps prevent sides from E2 in most –

Y can be run prior to cardio yes.

I see no place for clen unless you are dieting personally [/quote]

Cool thanks Peter, I’ve seen some people run HCG alongside nandrolone only to keep the testies alive lol what do you think of this?

Also I’ve seen posts saying your HPTA can be shut down for almost a year after using a 19-NOR as it stays in your system for a long time and therefore potentially stopping you being able to complete a proper PCT and having to cruise until it’s out of your system. Is this true?

I’ve used a 19-NOR before but a while ago, I’ve started to plan an exit away from peds so this will be my second to last cycle, I’ve always used a test base to what I can handle and then added primo/mast to increase the cycle from there apart from that I’ve used a tiny amount of Tren & Anavar in a diet phase. So for these last cycles I fancy trying different ways of building a stack and chucking a few orals in but I am aware that there are better ways to run your stack[/quote]
I am not a fan if using HCG on side due to the spikes in E2

I dont know any one that has that that issue in terms of completing a PCT post nandrolone use –

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Tuesday – Cardio done

Rest day

All meals in.

busy day with Arilena today.

Legs 2moro and looking forward to this

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Monday. -Cardio done on wake –

All meals in

Trained delts/arms – Was a decent workout – I actually quite like training these together so when I potentially drop down to 4 days this is how I will lay this out.

Cable 1 arm laterals – 2 x 8-10F – 1 x 15F
Cable Front raises – 2 x 10-12F – 1 x 15F
Seated DB laterals – x 8, x 12F, x 8F, x 20f

Oh rope extensions – 3 x 12-15 – pyramid up to a failure set with a drop set.
Cable EZ bar curls – as above

Seated Db curls – 2 x 8-10F,
1 arm Cable push downs – 2 x 10-12F

Dual cable curls – 3 x 8-10 – with 15 seconds rest between sets
Crucifix PD – as above.

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