[Hilly]

Push/Pull/rest/arms/legs rest/rest – or rest between arms and legs –

You could then include a deadlift in the leg day if they dont need as much volume which will also hit the back and add in a row movement – I do this with certain clients that have very strong legs and need to bring up there back.

you could add in a 5th day and have this as some back work to –

Alot of this depends on recovery etc or J suggestion would work very well to of course.

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[Hilly]

Wednesday – No cardio done as Arilena was up super early but its leg day so thats not a real issue.

All meals in no issue and in feel so much better not having to stress over trying to force 7 meals in on what was normally a high day

legs was a very good session -volume still being kept lower end.

Warm up – 2-3 sets of walking BW lunges
lay ham curl – x 8, x 10F
Extensions – x 8, x 13F
leg press – x 8, x 8, x 11F
Hip press – x 8, x 15F
Seated ham curl – x 8, x10F
Adductor – x 10, x 15F

The initial set of 8 is what I call a working warm up – its a hard set but no were near failure – so for example on leg press – the work set was 10 plates for 11 – the 8 was 9 plates for 8

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[Hilly]

Thanks all for replies.

Ye eating and everything is more than year fine, thats why i want to try go off meds. My doc agree and we will discuss in about month. But she has no much experience with T3 manipulation and it was more about our discucion always and how i feel. I will definetely do what she tell me.
I only want to know how is going when you guys go off T4/T3 after prep for some experience.

i drop the dose down to 25mcg t3 and 100mcg t4 if i have been above this.

i run this until weight levels off, cardio is reduced and food is at a good level.

I then drop the t3.

I keep t4 in year round personally.

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Hello bud.

Can you give us a little more detail please – considering most gyms only had HS kit and small amounts of other stuff for decades I dont see this as being an issue at all

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Tuesday – cardio done on wake and rest day

all meals in.

full day with Arilena today which was as per fantastic, although she really is learning to push her luck a little now lol – if she wasn’t so dam cute and adorable I would be able to try and tell her off lol.

All meals in No issues.

a mate of mine gave me a small amount of DNP I had given him a year ago he had left which I know is real so will be running just 100mg of that for the next couple of weeks –

DHB – doesn’t seem to be causing me any issues in terms of injection site stress yet.

Will do check in pics this week after a solid 13 days on the current set up in terms of meal plan and cardio etc and solid 3 weeks on current AAS set up.

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Some people just get Pip more so than others first and foremost in general I find. Alot of this can be how they react to certain carrier oils.

What is sounds to be like is your body may not react well to a certain carrier oil – So look at what oil is being used in the stuff you have used and try a different one.

Second option could be you simply dont get on with Test e and to stick with the Test C.

Lastly it ma very well be the site you are using just doesn’t take well to injections – some people always suffer in glutes for example. For myself I always get Pip In delts no matter what I jab or how much so I avoid my delts in general

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Monday –
Cardio done
All meals in as they should be

Trained delts/arms as a mix from what was missed yesterday and due today

Wide grip upright rows – x 10, x 10, x 10F
1 arm cable laterals – x 10, x 10F, x 8F
Cable front raises – x 8, x 8, x 8F
Y raises – x 12F, x 8F

Rope curls SS rope PD. 3 x 12-15 reps
EZ cable curls – x 8, x 8F, x 6F with a drop set – done with a very controlled neg
OH EZ extensions – x 10, x 10F, x 8F. – As above
Dual cable curls – x 10, x 12F, x 8F
Crucifix PD – x 10, x 8F, x 15F
Seated Db curls – x 8, x 10F

Still full of cold but its easing off.

clen went in today 40mcg done just MWF

DNP being used is bunk – Feel nothing from it – Tapered from 150mg to 250mg and noticed 0 – annoying but thats life in this game –

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If these are prescribed by your doctor then I would seriously recommend speaking to them about coming off and they will advise properly.

First I would make sure your eating is on point and the previous binge eating habits etc are not occurring any more.

Then take drug advice from the doc

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Echo above. This is very person dependent.

As soon as I put weight on my cheeks puff no matter how lean I am.

In general the leaner you stay the less puffy the face will be

Keeping E2 in check during cycles will also help alot / picking dryer drugs etc

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I would agree with the thoughts of using low dose insulin and growth to drive improvements to keep AAS dose down.

With clients circa your she in general I stick to just test / mast or primo.

I keep doses as minimal as possible n monitor blood work / blood pressure etc closely to make sure all health markers stay as they should all the time. This is key

Personally I would cap total dosing at 5-600mg per week.

I would keep gh to say 2-3iu daily

Insulin very much depends on your total set up and what you are trying to achieve at any given time

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Sunday – took a complete rest day from cardio to

Had a brutal cough yesterday n during the night. Almost we’re I was going to be sick so didn’t set n alarm n just let my body sleep and it did me the world of good

Spent the day sorting house out after Christmas etc which was brutal.

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also your HDL is low as primo does this.

Your LDL is high so you need to address this – HIT cardio, look at fat sources in diet and add in TBJP heart care

Thank you. My fat source in diet is 10g oliven oil at each meal, with 20g peanutbutter at breakfast. I do tend to aromatize alot. I think the test mite be bunk so ive changed test source now. How much hit cardio do i need to do? And what other fat sources should i includd in my mealplan?[/quote]
I would look to do 2-3 sessions per week.

as long as your including sources high im omega 3 such as extra virgin olive oil, oily fish such as salmon and a good quality omega like TBJP omega pro IMO you are good.

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Im with Ryan and Rhea here – follow as they state and more fluid etc will come off.

Get yourself back in line and from here on be more disciplined or this will keep happening

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Yes that’s my move Monday morning phoning my GP. To try get that sorted.

Prolactin I did add in the p5p was taking 200mg a day is this enuf ?

I am still natural ATM as this was my blood test pre starting anything, and would like to correct everything before starting unless you think that test level is good and no point in starting ?

i would speak to your GP about his – your test level has gone up a tad and your prolactin has doubled to an extremely high number – when you added something in that usually drops prolactin.

This may have some link to the thyroid but its well well passed my knowledge base – sorry I cant help further

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Sat – Cardio done
Weight 230 on wake and holding there.

Long day today as I travelled to near Rotherham to meet a mate and client to train and catch up which was nice but 4 hours in the car and training back isn’t fun.

Especially on a busy work day.

Training

Mag grip pull down – x 8, x 8, x 9F
Chest supported row – x 8, x 8, x 11F
Seated upper back row – x 10, x 10, x 11F
Dual pull down machine – x 8, x8, x 10F
1 arm cable row – x 15, x 10 x 11F

Very good session. – back felt great and body in general felt good.

going to do some more cardio now PM and then get to bed early and try and rectify my sleep – im also full of cold again which is super annoying

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