[Hilly]

I dont like the idea of any one training PPL 3 days straight ever TBH but if needs must then it must.

I also dont think real beginners need to be pushed beyond failure TBH so I think this may be your issue – they will respond super well from simply hitting true failure and this would allow them to recover better especially if training 3 days straight.

If we look at literature then we know you can make progress for a total of 8 working sets per week to true positive failure. So start here IMO for each body Part.

then based on there response taper it up over time making sure they rest and recover properly. You will find each client may be able different amounts of volume.

You will then need to adjust each client differently based on there response and progress.

Another potential issue here is when training low volume its key you are tracking progress to make sure they are over reaching each session (its different to higher volume work) as your not doing enough potential total volume to create the adequate response unless the volume you are doing is taken to true failure and is also progressing session to session. With higher volume training for alot of new people this can reduce the need to some extent.

you will also find as beginners they tend to slack a little even if you are pushing them and having them log book stuff will let you and them see they are progressing from your work and that they are making progress.

As a base example you may start at 8 total sets and work up to 14 total work sets over an 8-10 weeks cycle – rest/deload and then repeat the process potentially with different exercises.

i personally feel going beyond failure with lower volume is more suited for those with more experience and the ability/knowledge to recover properly

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[Hilly]

if you train hard then i see no issues with it and have done it myself in the passed due to schedule needs with no issues

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[Hilly]

I do with clients either at the start or end of a push phase based on body comp and what im trying to do.

100mg tren A – never any more

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[Hilly]

Friday – No idea what is going on with my sleep. I seem to not be able to get off till stupid o clock which is really annoying. Im not sure wether its linked to the fact I have been waking up wide awake around 2am and then sleeping a little later and over time this has knocked off my routine.

Last night I was up till 1:30 and then had to get up at 4:30 so I am very tired today – just had a 45minute nap but I am going to power through and then get to bed early to try and rest things ASAP.

rest day today
Cardo done
Will do second cardio tonight before I go in spa

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[Hilly]

What does your diet look like at the mo as you push to get a little leaner as you not posted it in a while

hey becks

food is as always boring and the same

1 – 2 eggs, 400g egg whites and 100g oats with banana
2 – 200g cooked 5% beef mince, 220g cooked jasmine rice and coconut oil
3 – vegan whey TBJP and 75g carbs from COR or sourdough
4/5 – 200g cooked turkey breast, 200g cooked jasmine rice
6 – 1 egg, 400g egg whites and 50g carbs from sourdough

Rest days are exactly the same bar all carb portions are 150g cooked jasmine rice or 50g carb from sourdough

last meal is reduced to 30g carbs from sourdough

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[Hilly]

I agree with J here – you keep asking us for the same sort of info and in truth I believe its just because you are looking for justification to go back on.

The reality is if your still at 10 now its likely not going to get better mate, so its a question of live with it or get on TRT etc. None of us can help you with this decision.

you have recovered your body enough to be fertile it seems, so get some sperm frozen just incase but chances are if you cycle properly from here and make clever decisions you will be able to recover again in the future.

However it likely wont be any better than this reading now but that doesn’t matter as you are fertile

Thank you Hilly, bang on! Appreciate the response [/quote]
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[Hilly]

I felt good, bloods have come back spot on. Progress was great put on 8kg of tissue.

How did you feel on 300 test and 150 mast??

How was the progress ?

What did your blood work say?

its this info that would guide the next move

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Repeat that cycle then imo

Maybe half way through take test to 400 and mast to 250

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[Hilly]

Thursday

Cardio done Am n PM to make up
For missed sessions earlier in week

Trained delts n chest All
Sets listed are hard working sets

Standing side laterals – x 12, x 10/10/8f
DB rear delts – x15/14f/12f

Shoulder press – x 8, x8, x8f, x14f

Rope front raises – x 12, x12, X9F

Machine lateral – 1 arm at a time. No test. 5 x 8-10

Pec Dec super slow neg – 4 x 8. Failing last set
Incline chest press – x 15. , x 12, x8f

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[Hilly]

its a very difficult thing here as we all have varying libido that is better at different ranges of the range lol if that makes sense.

You may be finding yours is a little low when its in the range its in now – potential drop the mast down to 250 and keep a equal split and retest again – try and get your E2 towards 13-150 and IMO libido should be better if its going to get better

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[Hilly]

I agree with J here – you keep asking us for the same sort of info and in truth I believe its just because you are looking for justification to go back on.

The reality is if your still at 10 now its likely not going to get better mate, so its a question of live with it or get on TRT etc. None of us can help you with this decision.

you have recovered your body enough to be fertile it seems, so get some sperm frozen just incase but chances are if you cycle properly from here and make clever decisions you will be able to recover again in the future.

However it likely wont be any better than this reading now but that doesn’t matter as you are fertile

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[Hilly]

there could be several suitable explanations for this decision, there could be none.

Its impossible for us to say if it makes sense tho bud unless we had all the info or the main stuff the coach had

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[Hilly]

How did you feel on 300 test and 150 mast??
How was the progress ?
What did your blood work say?

its this info that would guide the next move

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[Hilly]

Its a personal decision – ideally you will have your form in the gym, intensity etc all boxed off and know how to train and make progress naturally.
Your nutrition will of course also be on point.

Then its simply up to you, there are no real true guidelines etc.

some will say spend as long as you can natural, others will say if you intend on use then just use and make the most of your progress and time on.

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[Hilly]

your start dose is very particular to you, what you have ran in the past and what you find works best based on response and blood work.

As is how you progress the cycle.

for me I would be going 300mg test, 200mg NPP, 200mg mast. Split MWF

I would then be taking bloods at week 6-7 – asses how I felt, how I had progressed and what blood work looked like and if I felt there was a need to change basing the change on this

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[Hilly]

Cycle starts this week from AJ

750mg test, 300mg EQ, 300mg mast split MWF – aromas 25mg twice a week.

GH. Training days 5.2iu, rest days 3.8iu

No changes to food as we keep pushing a little leaner –

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