[Hilly]

Depends on individual

But this approach works well yes

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[Hilly]

I think a lot of the issues sith your questions are they can be quite irrelevant to yourself.

Just because I got on great with 1g test doesn’t mean you will ?

A better question may be

What would be the benefits / negatives to running just test ? Would any one recommend it based on knowledge n potentially own experience alongside clients

Yes I ran high test only – felt like superman for 3 weeks then worse by the day due to expected reasons

I wasn’t lean enough
I aromatise a lot
I didn’t use anything for E2 control

But how relevant this actually is to you I am not sure

As you may feel mega on it

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[Hilly]

Lots to consider here.

This stack is a very good stack for adding muscle but it’s very strong n higher in aromatisation so you need to factor this in.

Personally I would add in another compound like mast or EQ or your likely going to need an AI to control E2 depending on how you react.

If I had to use these n nothing else I would go

Week 1-6 – 300mg test , 200mg deca split MWF injections

Week 6-7 check hormones via blood test – check progress, health markers then plan the next best move

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More info:

I’m just out of a growing phase, sitting at 72kgs. Knowing I need to tidy up before I can push up again.

The last two times i’ve had bloods done my test is sitting around 10ng/dl as a female I’m not really sure where to go next. Definitely feeling symptoms of low test. Should I run the tidy up phase and then add in PED’s or add those in now at the start of this 8 week tidy up

Have you had test levels checked recently at end of this bulk?

Or were they during other phases ?

Have you looked into your other hormones.

We’re is E2 etc !
?

What time of your cycle did you get bloods done ? Was it the same both times ?

There are a fair few things to consider before taking any drugs.

Then lots to consider from there in terms of what route will suit you best

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[Hilly]

What about just getting up a little earlier n going walk outside

Wake the mind n body up.

Then look at the above to

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Rest day today

Cardio done

Busy work day

At the airport now heading to Alicante for the amateur O

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How did you find the vermicelli rice mix hilly digestion wise?

Totally fine. It’s just rice isn’t it or the one I got is

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How are your normal days looking like now Hilly?

Scroll up becks

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Hey, what brand Hgh are you using bud?

Genotropin

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Wednesday – weight dipped again – 212.5lb – which is surprising post legs – this would tell me I would of likely been lighter still had I been on normal schedule.

Really felt battered today after legs and training back today was far from ideal but its a high day which helped and I had scheduled in training back with Bob Waterhouse as I am coaching both him and his partner – just for supplements/blood work etc and an additional set of eyes not doing nutrition/training.

Session was more of How bob trains obviously with him being 7 weeks out from first show and was a very good enjoyable session even if I was feeling a little beat up.

Cardio done – 30 minutes walking in weighted vest.

Back – all work was just a heavy failure set and then a back off unless states with lower volume warm ups.

Hoist pull down – 3.5PPS x 6F, 2.5PPS x 13F
Chest supported t bar – 4PPS x 4 (over shot this), dropped back to 2.5PPS for the BO x 15F
1 arm DB row – not something I would usually do due to my back issue – 50kg x 8, 60kg x 6
Neutral grip pull down – x 12F, x 16F
Upper back seated row – x 8, x8, x 8F, x 20F BO
1 arm dorian row – x 15F, x 12F

Job done – Was nice to move some heavy weight but I got a bit carried away and felt it through my joints at this stage PWO.

High day has looked like this.

M1 – 400g egg whites, 2 slices sourdough and 100g COR
M2 – 40g TBJP vegan whey , 5 slices sourdough , little grass fed butter and little jam with 1/2 cookie dealer cookie.
intra – 30g EAA on way to gym with 30g sustain, then intra 30g sustain
PWO – 40g TBJP vegan whey and 40g carbs from natural apple sauce
Meal 4 – 350g egg whites and 140g rice flake/oat mix
meal 5 – 140g cooked chicken and 400g cooked vermicelli rice I made to try something different.
Meal 6 – 140g cooked lean beef with 400g cooked vermicelli rice mix

2moro I travel to Spain for the amateur O as have 2 clients competing so things will not be 100% but close as I can manage.

I will be resting 2moro and working until 2pm and then setting off for airport.

Friday I will train arms when clients train a pump session.

Saturday or sunday I will hit delts all being well.

Then travelling back later on Sunday – should land back 7pm –

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I have never heard anyone needing to take that long off from having their nose done. Few weeks at most

Keep your protein intake high you won’t lose anything.

Fully agree with Kuba here – Should be nothing to worry about in reality at all –

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[Hilly]

if it was me i would start with body weight lunges to warm up.

then i would use a DB to do lay hamstring curls first.

Second would be a good old barbell squat or Front squat.

Third would be an RDL or DB RDL

fourth would be a split squat/bulgarian squat

I would then finish with weighted walking lunges.

This would work very well for myself and my mechanics/knees and the need for them to be nice and warm before I train.

However its really about what you find works best for you.

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[Hilly]

I would include the EAAs in your protein total, yes.

Regardless though, if it’s something you’re going to add in, just keep it in as a constant from now on and make changes to your diet elsewhere whenever you need to.

Fully agree

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you always need carbs intra workout like Sas says and you have to remember this amount will vary in terms of what is needed depending on what you are training.

If you shoot 3-4iu pre workout – 30-40g carbs may cover you for a chest/shoulder workout but will likely not for legs.

always keep carbs in your gym bag just incase – liquid drink and glucose tabs.

If this is your first time using insulin I see no need to dose pre and post.

I would just pick one based on what you are trying to achieve both from the insulin, current goal and what time of day you train plus total food intake.

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[Hilly]

yes i would add in 200mg and retest in 6 weeks

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