[Hilly]

How much protein per pound of bodyweight has AJ got you on at the mo as he likes high protein

Since we started ive been between 4-500g daily 🙂

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[Hilly]

How much T4 do you generally run holly at the side of your GH dose in off season

100mcg year round bud 🙂

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[Hilly]

Im sure i have answered this in another section

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[Hilly]

Its not about the drug bud its about the ester.

if you have mast E then yes

If you have mast P then ideally it needs to be MWF or EOD

2 – depends on your blood work but this is were I would start most people.

3 – low E2 or high E2 or any other sides the ratio doesn’t agree with your body just like any other drug cycle.

Gyno/acne/mood/lack of improvements/reduced sex drive

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[Hilly]

Would it be fine to take clen on its own? With no t3 etc?

yes of course –

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[Hilly]

Pharmacy grade for the win 🙂

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[Hilly]

Needed to of been proper supps throughout the whole cycle

Get the full health stack now , so add heart care , really needed for your ldl

Add trt

And then just give it a couple months

x2 for sure

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[Hilly]

So for me i prefer 25-30g EAA as i start the workout and drank pretty immediately.

I then hit an iso or similar at the gym in the gym PWO 40-50g

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[Hilly]

yes as Clare states either Sustain which is the better product or performance fuel.

Then 15-20g EAA alongside it 🙂

I would look to get this in within the first 30-45 minutes of training with some sea salt and coconut water for sodium and potassium

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[Hilly]

TBJP CV burn when it is re released.

Yohimbine

Caffeine

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[Hilly]

Primo is a human grade drug , so the literature on it is more robust in terms

Of it being a healthier long term option, BUT I still use eq interchangeably with primo , when looking at the total ml of drug , as it’s fucking annoying pinning a lot . Just be mindful of hematrocit and as a result impacts on blood pressure with eq ( rarely an issue on 400mg)

Got you, thanks very much for that.

If I could throw one last question in here without being too much of a pain – would you say I can get the e2 lowering effects using 500mg test and 200mg primo / week

Or

Should I keep the ratio the same as with mast and use 250mg test 400mg primo / week

Based on the current e2 level I’m guessing the latter but the former would be a bit easier to split into two jabs per week (and a lot cheaper) so if you think it could fix the issue I can give it a blast and a re-test

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Agree wit Jordan on the above.

for most people 200mg primo wouldn’t control E2 on 500mg test – especially if they are E2 sensitive however 200mg EQ would likely work very well – just as J says be mindful of Blood levels.

You may find the acne issue was down to high E2 which is possible.

so bringing it down to a better range may help in this area but you wouldn’t know until you tried it.

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[Hilly]

its certainly possible but if your truly wanting to see how you react to certain compounds then potentially.

Test – 300mg, 450mg, 600mg, 750mg, 900mg – Escalate like this until you run into sides/issues or potentially your just super impressed.

Then pull test back to say 200mg – just about TRt and add in deca and drive this dose up – 200mg, 400mg, 600mg, potentially 800mg -See how you feel, any sides and if you find you get on better with 1 or other.

these are IMO the only 2 compounds you can do this with tho.

Eq would just drive E2 down to much with a lower test and wouldn’t work.

Tren would just be toxic and make you feel terrible.

Mast may work but IMO and IME would drive E2 low and you wouldn’t feel great.

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[Hilly]

yes, makes no difference bud dont stress it.

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[Hilly]

if your only at week 8 of the cycle I would run bloods and if all is ok then I would continue for another 4/6/8 weeks and maximise this growth phase before moving to a cruise/trt dose and looking to hold the new tissue with better composition before planning my next move.

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yup no need to change, let the food do the job

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[Hilly]

Friday – Weight dipped down 212lb or just under so sat 10lb over stage weight.

Sleep was ok.

Cardio done in gym with abs – 30 minutes

All meals in but a little later than usual. Mad busy work day and then trained later than usual with 2 clients for in person check ins.

Session was not what I had planned but suited them and thats what counts.

Seated side delts – x 12, x 12, x 11F
Hoist narrow grip press – x 8, x 8, x 9F, x 14F
Incline machine press – x 15, x 15, x 11F, Back off with a dead stop – x 15F
Shoulder press with a dead stop – x 8, x8, x 7F
Decline chest press – 3 sets of 6 with 8 second rest between sets – got all 3 sets so did a fourth failing at 4 reps
Seated side lateral machine – x 20F, x 18F

Was meant to be more Delt focused for me but was even mixture which is fine as both need the attenton.

Was great to train and chat with clients – then run through posing.

On we go

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