[Hilly]

Time to get lean and re set 🙂 when appetite is gone mostly your shot

If you can’t digest food you won’t get much out of it

Diet then work back up without over eating and protect appetite

Fully agree with Kuba here, sounds to me like you just need a 4-6 week diet phase to clean up and come back down and then build back up.

Out of interest was all fine pre xmas? did you eat much off plan stuff over the xmas period?

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I would keep trying different labs as some just dont get on well with certain carrier oils as suggested.

I would also try a deeper needle as well, depending on body fat levels some just need to go deeper IM

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What do you mean how much more impact sorry bud?

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i mix 3ml with mine and shoot 10iu per day pre bed

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Friday – rest day today and was meant to have physio but he’s had to cancel and move it to early Sunday morning which is annoying but it is what it is.

5 meals will go in.

steps will be 14-15k

low carb day again today and then im going to eat up sat and sunday as both days are training days

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Thursday – steps 15k

5 meals in

blood done fasted just fully hydrated at 8am.

trained biceps/legs – my tendons especially the right arm is really in a bad way if im honest to a worrying level but therapy work again 2moro.

1 arm nautilus machine as this caused no tendon pain – 6 sets of 8-12 reps – last 2 to complete failure plus partials.
No tricep work due to tendon issue.

calfs – 4 x 10-12 seated calf machine.
1 leg ham curl – x 8, x 10f, x 7F
extensions – x 8, x 8, x 8, x12F, x 8F – up in reps
squat machine – x 6, x 6, x 10F – up 2 reps on last week
adductor – x 12, x 16F done with a pause at start and end of ROM

i feel great, im pretty dam lean now but I want to keep pushing as its coming very comfortably. Only issue is this ongoing tendon problem and although its not the end of the world while I diet I really need it sorted for end of march.

once bloods come back I will step into a low dose cycle for 6-8 weeks as I end this cut and transition into growing.

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SLU – 300mcg on wake and another 300mcg pre training

Reta – 1mg per week to start – either in a bolus dose or split MWF based on response and opinion. I find a MWF dose preferable for less digestive upset but you’ll notice more of the hunger reducing effects from a bolus dose.

Mots C – 1mg on wake daily

SS31 – 0.5mg to 1mg daily on wake.

Mots C – mix 2ml (200u) in and he 5iu gives 1mg

SS31 – 10mg divide by 1ml (100iu) gives 1mg per 10iu

I run 1 hour after waking up, so should I just do 300mcg SLU upon wake then? And then another 300mcg for my PM session?

Anyone got any experience with the ItPP?

Very good reviews with endurance performance 🙂[/quote]
Yes that’s what I would do initially

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Gradual weight push up was going to go til end of march then start dieting and then drop test down.

I don’t think I can get primo atm and I’ve never used eq so never came into my mind to be honest

Short term fix for next 4 weeks

0.5mg adex Monday and Thursday then imo.

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Its impossible for us to say accurately as we simply cant guess your response.

How are you injecting your testosterone. I would advise to do daily jabs and try aromas at 25mg monday and Tuesday initially.

check E2 after 4 weeks

I do injections daily, i micro dose it but even though i do that estro still goes high, i aromatize a lot,

When you say you cant guess my response you mean aromasin response?

Still got some adex on side just in case but it gave me some bad insomnia tbh dunno why[/quote]
Yes , we all aromatise differently.

You may need 3 x 25mg
I may need 1 x 25mg

Some one else none.

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Hi

so the MCHC would not concern me, this can be skewed for multiple reasons short term according to a doctor I spoke to who advised if close to range like this is not to be concerned

your H and H look fine to me and as long as blood pressure is in range all the time and fine I would not be concerned either here. HIT cardio and potentially a blood let may well bring this down.

HDL is low and I would want to try and bring this up, yes we know alot of research show there is no direct link to CV issues and low HDL but we stll wan this as high as possible so I would look to drive up omega intake to 9g daily if not there from TBJP omega pro.

Kidney reads as you say may well simply be skewed because you didnt rest prior to blood work but I would wan this retested with proper rest.

ALT and AST as you say likely skewed from training close to bloods.

if you inject daily did you miss the jab the day before bloods? if not this usually skews test levels and E2 levels so could well be this plus the nandrolone showing as testosterone.

Thanks alot,

Am I not supposed to jabs the days before to get accurate test+e readings?

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Jabbing the day before seems to cause skewed / false readings in test / e2 st times.

I always miss the day before jab n do it post bloods

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SLU – 300mcg on wake and another 300mcg pre training
Reta – 1mg per week to start – either in a bolus dose or split MWF based on response and opinion. I find a MWF dose preferable for less digestive upset but you’ll notice more of the hunger reducing effects from a bolus dose.
Mots C – 1mg on wake daily
SS31 – 0.5mg to 1mg daily on wake.

Mots C – mix 2ml (200u) in and he 5iu gives 1mg
SS31 – 10mg divide by 1ml (100iu) gives 1mg per 10iu

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you will need a slightly higher dose for the capsules IMO. So if taking 300mcg inject I would look to 600mcg orally

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Your Estradiol and prolactin are to high which may be why you are feeling like this.

if you have been on for over 20 weeks whats the plan? as if you intend to come off and trt/cruise then this will rectify things and next time look to design the cycle better for yourself with something in to control E2 such as Eq or primo for example.

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[Hilly]

How old are you?
Have you tried training in a different way and just hitting body parts once per week, maybe your own recovery abilities are just not that high and U/L is to much?

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If you’re already taking NAC, adding glutathione only helps if you need an extra antioxidant boost. TUDCA on the other hand, supports bile flow and liver cell health in a way that NAC doesn’t, so combining NAC with TUDCA makes sense if liver or digestion support is the goal.

tbJP Vital Support covers both NAC and Tudca needs, alongside other ingredients that support liver and kidney health.

Fully agree here

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