[Hilly]

What I REALLY dislike is you trying to pre build cycles , why are you doing this? I have coached some of the best females in the world , with multiple at the Olympia – I have NEVER ever Pre mapped out a cycle like this as you never know how they will react. Simply use your eyes and your feel for the prep and adjust as you go in the moment like any good coach does

Fully agree.

Second time I’ve seen you post like this.

It’s almost like you cookie cutter the cycle

I don’t like it one bit.

The issue is how can we give any advice when we don’t know the client.

As the cycle should be designed based on her needs / history n your specific knowledge of each compound

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[Hilly]

No. I see no need to kickstart the cycle like this

The uneven hormones that will come from the switch are not worth it IMO.

I see no reason to do so

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[Hilly]

Legs this morning at 9am.

Great session. Nothing to true failure unless stated

Adductor- 3 work sets rest paused but only last hitting failure

Seated ham curl – 3 sets same weight varying were the kids is

Extensions – 3 straight sets

1 leg leg press – see pic

Normal leg press – 3 x 20

Stand ham curl – 3 x 12

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Hey mate, Seen the progress your client Sam made post show, really impressive work. How did you approach this period, were anabolics run post show to aid the rebound or what were the changes?

Hello bud.

Yes they were. Around 700-800mg total I think.

Which was 60.% reduced of what he wanted to take lolol.

We used some lantus on his weak body part days as food was super high from the start on these days.

I then drastically changed his training to manage post show fatigue n give his body a huge change / novel stimulus from what it’s used to.

These changes allowed us to push through different mechanisms almost

This then leaves us to move to a more progressive overload approach during the cruise n still make progress in theory from the different stimulus.

His joints / tendons are now fresher as his his whole body he stated than it has been in a long while

It was not easy getting him to pull back on a lot of things but it has worked fantastic as I new it would

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Yesterday was spent working n preparing for today.

Legs Boxing Day morning.

Have a fantastic Christmas every one ?

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Thanks for the reply. Yeah I know my TRT is high but wanted some performance, muscle maintenance and recovery benefits still.

So drop to 100mg and 100mg primo? I usually always ran 160mg on a cruise and this would put my test at top level of range at a trough reading. Estro would be on point with no AI at 160mg a week. So I didn’t think 200mg a week would give it so much of a boost. Now wondering if the test cyp I’m using is slightly overdosed.

Yeah HDL I’m happy with but if it could be improved I’d be even happier. Using Nordic fish oil at 3tbsp a day, plus a few salmon meals and 20-25mins cardio six times a week. Steps I always manage 8k without much effort.

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Test looks half dosed and I would be confident t to say the Primo and mast can’t be good either based on that estro in relation to the test result.

What lab was this?

This was resolute test and mast, Rohm primo,

Switched 6 weeks ago from Rohm Test E which was also also underdosed

Ffs [/quote]
Very annoying isn’t it.

I wasted 9 weeks on 3 diff brands stuff. All under dosed

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Hey mate, is it right you’re using Rohm test E, how are you finding it ? Struggling to find accurately dosed gear

Hello buddy – It is but I am only on week 2 so it is hard to say.

I will be getting bloods done in 2-3 weeks.

However I have seen the lab test from the new batch and it was 270mg plus [/quote]

Okay well that’s good to hear, is that direct from Rohm guys?[/quote]
Yes bud. They are asking us what we would like to see tested.

Well
The guy I deal with is.

He wants to test 3 products a month he says

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Your T level looks inline with that dose.
Estro is a little high that may be effecting libido – If you wanted to adapt you’re TRt dose I would consider 100mg primo or masteron to help control Estrogen alongside a slight increase in Testosterone – instead of just T

Vitamin b6 increase to 3-400mg per day IMO to aid in prolactin

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[Hilly]

The numbers in the blood count would not concern me personally as they are barely out of range.

CK – not an issue here – its expected with training

Alt is Imo fine

Urea/Creatinine – this numbers are always elevated it seems due to our lifestyle/training etc in our blood work in general for a lot of people. However if you are concerned please speak to your doctor.

Your testosterone looks 50% dosed IMO

Prolactin is low – this could be simply due to the low estrogen from the lower amount of T –

You thyroid results could be concerning so I would definitely visit my GP.

Please remember I am not a doctor and this is just my opinion. Based on experience and self education

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[Hilly]

The usual effects when you Google it

But it would be much better for us to try to talk about why you hold more water / think you do

What’s a typical offseason cycle for you ?

Typical offseason day of eating ?

For some reason I get the vibe it’s inflammation, my off-season blast cycles are usually test 750, eq 600…. Test 750 npp 300 ,,, or test 750 primo 600

It’s usually either 2 of the above as my go too… I cruise between

I lean bulk and have 2 cheat meals off-season and usually sit around 3500 Cals

I look average in my opinion compared to you guys who still look great in off-season

Another one off theory is I get very hairy and can’t be bothered shaving it all off every second or 3rd week ,, this could possibly be giving me a wet look ????

I’ll add photos in off-season compared to pre contest

Thanks Jordan [/quote]

Off-season [/quote]
Fantastic information from the guys above so nothing to add there.

I would say IMHO I dont feel you look to watery here and potentially just adding some fat through the off season and thinking it is water.

I feel you look fantastic here however so I am not saying you have gained to much at. It just comes part and parcel with growing.

Great physique

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lean cuts of meat –
Potato/rice/couscous
Olive oil
Eggs
Ground rice/oats
veg – Frozen
Fruit – Frozen berries etc if funds allow.

IMO any one can create a hugely varied and very effective/healthy meal plan from these foods at a very low cost

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[Hilly]

For most I like 1-2lb a week personally.

I would always add what Kuba has pointed out tho that when using assistance you have to consider the fluctuations from compounds when initially being added

That’s great, really appreciate all of your responses and have found them very useful in laying out a plan as to my coming off season structure. Have a great Christmas and new year everyone, keep up the phenomenal work as always ?[/quote]
It is what we are here for buddy and our pleasure – have a great Christmas 🙂

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It looks like you may be killing your estrogen would be my first thought I would get some bloods done ASAP to check hormones – Test/estro mainly.

then asses and change cycle from here.

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