[Hilly]

Main focus would be recomp if possible. I will also say im not a bodybuilder or looking to be one. I come from a powerlifting background and have took up kickboxing for fun. I want to build a bit of muscle and lose some fat to perform and look better. These goals do not have to come at once.
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245 lbs at 15-20% bf – best guess
I cant use too much of the test cyp i get sent or they would know id bumped it up so adding a compound is an option.
Test 27nmol
Free test 0.8 nmol although they slightly lowered my dose after these tests
Estro 170 didnt feel great at this and switched to every day injections and it seems to have helped

In your situation I would double your test dose

I would then add in 200mg masteron

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[Hilly]

Chirping in here. I’m currently running mast 8 weeks in at 500mg and would prefer to run primo in its place. Can I switch over all at once mg for mg replacement or do I need to phase it?

No harm done n just switching one to other bud

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[Hilly]

Imo depends on goal like Jordan says.

If building muscle is the goal then primo is a better choice

If look / feel is the goal I do feel masteron is a better choice

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[Hilly]

What is the main focus of the cycle ?

Age ?
Body comp ?

Do you feel you would rather just titrate the dose up or would you be happy adding another compound

We’re does your current dosing put your testosterone and your Estro ?

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[Hilly]

I have done the with great results as have some of my clients also.

Felt great in terms of mood/libido

Performance and results were all excellent.

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Yesterday I went out with all the boys for our annual day out and to wet one of my best mates babies heads.

I am super rough today, defo to old for that game Now lol.

Rest today and back at it 2moro

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[Hilly]

It’s our pleasure.

Also please don’t think I was trying to be blunt or a dick incase it came across like that.

Playing with female hormones like this can cause issues they may have to live with forever not yourself.

You / me / us as coaches etc need to remember this.

It’s a whole different ball game to using with males.

I personally do not like using AAS with females at all unless it’s a must n we’ve worked together a long time

I’ve lost 3 bikini clothes this year as I continued to say they didn’t need drugs

One was just 18 lol

This should be a very very serious decision for any one of these compounds

Not having pre mapped cycles etc imo.

I understand Hilly and I don’t see it as a personal attack. I am really conscious about female peds usage. That’s why i want to learn more about it, because I want to do things the right way and only reading books doesn’t mean that it always has the same outcome. Personal experience is something thats also really important. I see here in the Netherlands allot of females fking around with SARMS and AAS not knowing what they are doing and because some dude adviced it to them with no solid reasons for subscribing it for them. Thats why I want to learn more about this topic and also help some ladies out that want to take this step and really have thought about it. [/quote]
Well this approach couldn’t be any further from a step

It’s like step 25 lol

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[Hilly]

Agreed.

In the grand scheme. No issues

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[Hilly]

Thanks Jordan, Hilly and Max for your feedback. It has given me more insight of doing things where I was looking for.

It’s our pleasure.

Also please don’t think I was trying to be blunt or a dick incase it came across like that.

Playing with female hormones like this can cause issues they may have to live with forever not yourself.

You / me / us as coaches etc need to remember this.

It’s a whole different ball game to using with males.

I personally do not like using AAS with females at all unless it’s a must n we’ve worked together a long time

I’ve lost 3 bikini clothes this year as I continued to say they didn’t need drugs

One was just 18 lol

This should be a very very serious decision for any one of these compounds

Not having pre mapped cycles etc imo.

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[Hilly]

My apologies

Did this work?

Any thoughts on how to handle the out of range estrogen and dhea?

Thanks and merry Xmas

I still can’t see the pics sorry[/quote][/quote]
These still don’t show. If you cite them
To me on Instagram n let me know it’s from this thread I’ll look on there bud

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Any thoughts on how to handle the out of range estrogen and dhea?

Thanks and merry Xmas

I still can’t see the pics sorry

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Honestly. Thinks looks like some on doing lots of reading n then coming up with something that makes sense on paper.

Which I hate tbh.

Why change drugs at week 2 ?

How do you know what’s working then ?

The test n primo won’t of even settled n balanced n you throw another drug in ? 

What are they doing pre week 6

Why only these compound for 6 weeks ?

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I personally have never used test with a female ever.

The primo dose depends , are we talking wellness , figure , wpd , female bb? Pro? Amateur ?

It depends SO much , but basically try to use the absolute least possible

Thats also what I’m trying to do. 70mg is more for the hyper muscular women. But I see this as the max dosage where i can work with. Ofcourse I try to build the most out of the least, but it gives me a guideline where I can ramp it max to. I also heard in the beast mode podcast someone advising if needed you can dose female trt at 3mg to max 10mg test pw. What’s your opinion in this? [/quote]
I have also never used testosterone with a female and do not like the idea personally

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