[Hilly]

Seems crazy to me.

Arimidex when not on cycle , test is low and estro is normal sounds ludacris

Nolva when on test if you have had gyno issues before may very well make sense initially

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[Hilly]

Agree with Jordan.

60-90 minutes pre gym or before the pre gym meal.

Will defo get positives from it

Keep use to 4-6 weeks imo.

Be careful of Estrogen spikes

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[Hilly]

You need to add in TrainedByJP vital support for liver

You need to look at your test dose to estrogen.

Estro is super high.

This needs rectified

You may be better reducing the test to 200mg n adding in 100mg primo

Splitting this over 3 jabs n retesting in 4-6 weeks

As this is very high for a test read of 40.

Your test is also likely under dosed 50%

What lab is it

Hi mate, thanks for your reply. My Estrogen always runs high but this is the highest it’s been and I’ve always run the stack I’ve been given by my coach.

I don’t take any AI, would you keep this the same?

I have thought about Primo before so I will look into that, thank you.

The lab is CenzoPharma [/quote]
You need to discuss with your coach then.

I would personally make the changes I said.

However it’s up to your coach to guide you here.

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[Hilly]

Agree with Irish.

Check the thread on PCT at the top of the health section

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[Hilly]

Food to 4500 today.

Training this week will be

Push
Off
Pull
Off
Legs
Off
Off

Then I will go to 4 days

Still cruising on trt
Gh is 3iu pre bed.

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Fully agree with Jordan.

10mg would do here

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[Hilly]

You need to add in TrainedByJP vital support for liver

You need to look at your test dose to estrogen.

Estro is super high.

This needs rectified

You may be better reducing the test to 200mg n adding in 100mg primo

Splitting this over 3 jabs n retesting in 4-6 weeks

As this is very high for a test read of 40.

Your test is also likely under dosed 50%

What lab is it

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Hi Chris, this is an example of a very poorly designed cycle
Some of your markers are quite poor and require attention asap
Drop the winstrol now, don’t wait
What’s the goal of the cycle here? What’s previous cycle history ? What’s body composition like?
I can’t sex hormones in the blood panel, why is the AI there?
Things that can help now –
Double love heart dose
10g very high quality fish oils per day
Stay very well hydrated
Red yeast rice

Hey.

Can I ask what’s so poor about the cycle design ? Im interested in your thoughts –

Bar the winstrol there is little wrong with the cycle.

Could it be ran different – yes

But there are many many top guys out there running mixes very similar to this with huge success.

The aromasin alongside the EQ may very well be what he needs to control Estrogen I’m guessing.

Test n deca is going to create a lot of muscle building potential.

Winny is pointless n negative agreed.

Would I do this ? No

But it’s not a great example of a poor cycle. Far from it imo and experience

Health and supplement advice bang on. Just curious as your reasoning above.

Not saying your wrong either but I personally wouldn’t call this poor at all in general [/quote]

Hey @Hilly ,

Guess I may have been a little unfair

Imo the winstrol and probably the EQ don’t have a place here

I’m seeing so many posts here and other forums recently with tons of orals in cycles where orals have no place. Not saying this is tons obviously but just crazy how it seems these days people just throw drugs in without thinking of consequence

Sorry if I was harsh Chris ?[/quote]

Nothing to be sorry for.

I’m not saying your wrong either in a way.

It’s just got to explain your thought pattern when it comes to this stuff.

There is never a true correct answer and we can all learn from each other. Me from you , you from me n others from us etc

But only if we explain

As in my second post based on his blood worth this cycle is a not a very good choice for him at all.

Some it may and does work great.

Bar the winstrol I’m 100% with you on that [/quote]

Thank you Hilly for your input on this matter.

I stopped the winstrol starting today but I don’t think I’ll stop the rest as I just started 5 weeks ago and I’m on week 6 now. Will probably go for another 6 weeks with this then call it a cycle. [/quote]
I would re read mine and Irish posts

You need to address these markers that are out imho

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[Hilly]

Actually your SHBG is very low m

What other supplements are you taking

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Your estro is fantastic at that test level.

I would add in TrainedByJP vital support if not using.

All else looks fine

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I would half your carbs for 3-5 days to drop water off from flight n food ASAP.

Then return to normal

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[Hilly]

Agree with Clare.

Personally I double my health supplements when I’ll.

Just follow rest day diet and rest

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In reality your still holding fat in those areas.

Overall winny will help your look.

It won’t fix these areas tho. 30-50mg daily is ample imo

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To be fair my approach would be to avoid AI but I’m afraid 375mg requires me to use Adex, that’s why I was considering dropping back down to 250mg

The blood test on 250mg

Was there an AI with this ?

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[Hilly]

Hi Chris, this is an example of a very poorly designed cycle
Some of your markers are quite poor and require attention asap
Drop the winstrol now, don’t wait
What’s the goal of the cycle here? What’s previous cycle history ? What’s body composition like?
I can’t sex hormones in the blood panel, why is the AI there?
Things that can help now –
Double love heart dose
10g very high quality fish oils per day
Stay very well hydrated
Red yeast rice

Hey.

Can I ask what’s so poor about the cycle design ? Im interested in your thoughts –

Bar the winstrol there is little wrong with the cycle.

Could it be ran different – yes

But there are many many top guys out there running mixes very similar to this with huge success.

The aromasin alongside the EQ may very well be what he needs to control Estrogen I’m guessing.

Test n deca is going to create a lot of muscle building potential.

Winny is pointless n negative agreed.

Would I do this ? No

But it’s not a great example of a poor cycle. Far from it imo and experience

Health and supplement advice bang on. Just curious as your reasoning above.

Not saying your wrong either but I personally wouldn’t call this poor at all in general [/quote]

Hey @Hilly ,

Guess I may have been a little unfair

Imo the winstrol and probably the EQ don’t have a place here

I’m seeing so many posts here and other forums recently with tons of orals in cycles where orals have no place. Not saying this is tons obviously but just crazy how it seems these days people just throw drugs in without thinking of consequence

Sorry if I was harsh Chris ?[/quote]
Nothing to be sorry for.

I’m not saying your wrong either in a way.

It’s just got to explain your thought pattern when it comes to this stuff.

There is never a true correct answer and we can all learn from each other. Me from you , you from me n others from us etc

But only if we explain

As in my second post based on his blood worth this cycle is a not a very good choice for him at all.

Some it may and does work great.

Bar the winstrol I’m 100% with you on that

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