[Hilly]

Could well be prolactin/ progesterone

However without blood work we’re guessing.

However your only 2 weekd post deca

Wait till week 5/6 n things will likely level out

CNt expect things to be normal n balanced after just 14 days

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[Hilly]

Firstly massive well done on your work
So far

I feel your in the perfect place to push up.

Being natural imo you need to add a little BF in general for optimum hormone production if you wish to add some muscle tissue n compete.

I defo feel
You have all the tools to compete.

I would start by getting your fats up daily to 60-70g if they are lower than this

Then asses from here and add carbs

Based on your post n the fact your natural it defo sounds like hormones have taken a hit which is expected when dropping this much BF

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[Hilly]

Ohh and big congrats on your hard work so far bud. Make sure you keep it up

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[Hilly]

Slowly reduce output and re add food.

I always recommend the follow as a base standard to those who are not my clients and I don’t know there history

300kcal from carbs T days
200kcal from fats R days

Asses after 5-7 days.

I am a fan of small regular adjustments

Add in a weekly relaxed meal

Go from there

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[Hilly]

Unfortunately there is no natural fix

Weed/ thc

Sleeping tablets

Not ideal at all.

Dry TrainedByJP dream sleep

Lower the dose

But in general tren just ruins a lot of peoples sleep I find n thus why most people recommend using it only when truly needed

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[Hilly]

Keep a food/mood/stress journal

I have all
My health / digestive clients do this

You will find the trigger 9/10 times

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[Hilly]

Nothing to
Worry about at all
Imo.

Most athletes would likely see this.

The body adapts n creates more RBC to deal with increased o2 demand.

Given this nothing to worry about

I would be using TrainedByJP vital support as a insurance always

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[Hilly]

200mg is giving you a test read of 50

Which is not bad

But your estro is sky high so you need to work on rectify this

I would try every way possible before using an AI if this is a cruise dose , low constant dose

Yes this was my cruise and really didnt think estro was gonna be that high. Last time i checked it was down to 187 with aromasin 3 times a week, so a total of 37,5 mg wich is not that much. 1,5 tab a week. And that was on 300mg of test. So been crusing for 6 weeks now. My plan was to blast with 400mg sust, 2 iu GH and 50mg of Primo. You think its a bad idea now? Did you think anything else looked very off? I would put Aromasin in again while blasting and up the dose on tudca 500, nac 1000, citrus bergamont 500, astragalus 4000, omega 3s 4g, maybe add krilloil to that? And my next cruise would be 150mg of test and see how bloods and estro looks without any ai. [/quote]
Try reading my initial post.

I covered all that I feel is off and how to rectify

I think based on your bloods you need some serious thought into your cycles

Regular blood work

Regular blood letting

I would cap test were it is now and use primo n var to drive anabolism based on your info here

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[Hilly]

You’ve answered your own question at the end

Stress management and water intake need to be kept constant or expect a change in something else

Action vs reaction scenario

Do what you can to offset stress

Consider when your next deload or rest form the gym was

Prioritise recovery and sleep this week whilst managing stress and water intake and you should be good to go

Cardio NEEDS to be done.

You wrote everything that you know hurts you here already ??

Ahhh Jamie nailed it to ?

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[Hilly]

Just read your question
Back bud.

Your water is down
Stress is up

Following this n hunger has gone.

Fix the issue n things will
Come back.

There is no excuse for not getting water in.

Stress is different for us all. I find righting things I’m stressed about down – addressing them
Like this – is it important? Should I be stressed ? How do I rectify it if so.

Hope this helps

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[Hilly]

Stefan all day.

No questions

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[Hilly]

Weight back up after my gh n lantus day yesterday.

Heaviest AM weight in my life – 246.5. Very happy

Trained push yesterday – strength is at an all
Time high

New tissue inbound

Rest today. Meal tonight n seeing comedian Paul smith

Legs 2moro.

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[Hilly]

You need to go give blood ASAP imo.
How is your blood pressure ?
Citrus bergamot / krill oil for HDL
You need to half test
Adjust dosing schedule
Re check in 6 weeks but that estro is super super high so you need to do more here

What about test? Would you say its high on 200mg?[/quote]
200mg is giving you a test read of 50
Which is not bad

But your estro is sky high so you need to work on rectify this

I would try every way possible before using an AI if this is a cruise dose , low constant dose

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[Hilly]

You need to go give blood ASAP imo.
How is your blood pressure ?
Citrus bergamot / krill oil for HDL
You need to half test
Adjust dosing schedule
Re check in 6 weeks but that estro is super super high so you need to do more here

Yes. I did give blood not to long time ago but will do again. Blood pressure was 125/70 last time i checked but i will check again today. Okey so like 150 test a week? Adjust dosing, what do you mean? I have aromasin, maybe use 25mg a week so split that in two?[/quote]
Split the 200mg over 3 jabs or EOD to potentially reduce estro

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[Hilly]

I would go

200 test

500 NPP

300 mast

Personally

However every one body is different

I’d rather just keep

The test lower , use higher anabolic to do there job

If I was focusing on a pure muscle gaining cycle I would do the above

If I was looking for a leaner / dryer cycle so to speak I would drop the NPP for EQ

But as we have no idea why your running the cycle we can’t hope to give you the best advice.

Each drug has purpose and benefits / negatives

If we don’t know why you want to use and what you want to gain how can we decide on the drugs ?

Hey hilly

First of all thank you for your response!

I should have given more context here…

I start my offseason now after a cruise and I wanna get strong and build as much Lean mass as possible! So as you already said, the first option would be appropriate in this case?

Thanks again![/quote]
Thanks bud.

Yes.

However based on this I would taper the dose

200 test
300 NPP
200 mast

Then 8 weeks time potentially move the mast up

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