[Hilly]

100g raw weight rice is 80c or there abouts depending on the rice you use

100g white potato is generally 17gc

So 470g potato will be 79c

Snap

I would be doing 500g raw weight or 100g rice raw

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Weight 234 yesterday

Weight tiday 231. Missed 2 meals n judt had shakes. Charl isn’t well.

Shoulders n tri yesterday. No biceps as tendon sore from back. Must bet these issues bloody sorted

Going to try a different physio I think.

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Sorry should have been clearer, i am on a total test of 300mg per week. So 150x 2

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What is your day to day out put

Please can we see a current pic to judge body fat

Normally on rest days 20minutes of cardio and around 5000 steps[/quote]

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I’m not kind of a guy that goes into the drama or ever comments on it, but my god this is the first time i’m going in and going to say don’t listen to Peter (don’t take it personally Peter), but that is an awful advice. I’m not siding with anyone here, but like Peter said everyone has opinions so i’m going to say mine. Listen mate, i had the same problems as you with needles and injections, i got traumatized as a kid when they tried to take my blood out and they pinned 10-15 times in both of my arms and they couldn’t do it, now when i look back it was because those doctors didn’t even know how to take bloodwork out and they weren’t even a nurses that do it, it was someone else who was changing the original ones. So basically i fainted 2 times and my mom drived me home and from then i was scared of even looking at them. Now 1 year back i got diagnoised with pituitary problems and basically my test was 3 nmol/L basically non existant and i got prescribed the HRT therapy. I was scared as hell getting injections three times a week, but you know what? I’m doing it, you get over it. Get out of your comfort zone and stomp over your fears. That’s my honest advice to you mate, if you are already thinking about going into that world, ask yourself first is it worth it and if it is, if you are going to try to compete and other stuff, why would you even try to start with orals? Do yourself a harm, and yes, for 10 weeks anavar at 50mg (if it is real) it will crash your estrogen in most of the cases and your hpta will be shutdown. Ask yourself what you value more, little bit of muscle or your health long term? I’m not gonna say don’t do it, but atleast go with real route and normal base first (testosterone) not sarms on orals. If YOU are going to do it only for 1 stupid cycle, then don’t do it. Because you got people to impress, that’s not worth it. Take from that what you will but just.. don’t listen everyone on this forum because he is a “coach or whatever else”, that doesn’t mean you need to agree with them and do it.. Just my advice. (PS not shooting at anyone here), just to make it clear. Have a nice day.

Gd post. No one has to agree. No one is a doctor here not qualified to give medical advise

This is just our opinions.

Every ones opinion is valid here.

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Hi bro – please can you let us know your Stats – age – history of use – training years etc etc and you will get some better feedback.

Plus pictures

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your reasonings and evidence is unbelievably poor that you had to resort to using the OP’s childhood trauma as a valid excuse of why to go through with this very poor decision. Rather than simply say, ” just dont do it altogether, youre instead saying yeah go ahead even though it will intentionally put your body through unecessary stress”
Big red flags when a person cant admit theyre wrong, and what baffles me even more is that you had to have recongnised it was an issue, as there was no way you could have missed me commenting first and yet you proceeded to recommend a 10 week cycle at 50mg.
Similarly I too have seen countless bloodwork of anavar only and the impact they have had of crashed estrogen. And also yes long term, almost any acute cycle will result in zero long term issues, but that still does not negate the really shitty short term sides, and what kind of precident that sets if youre allowing someones first cycle to come off a basis of “Well if theres no long term sides then fine go ahead” yeah you might have zero sex drive, brain fog, hot flushes, impacted digestion, ect, but 10 years from now youll be fine.
Get real

The beauty of a forum my man. Every one has opinions

You seem to just want to argue based on what ifs

My post still stands as my recommendation n opinion

Anything we’re doing has shitty short term negative potential. Just we much as there may be no issues 

The OP request , info and boundaries are the only thing that matters as that’s were he is coming from. He can make his decision from here I am sure.

He wants to cycle

He doesn’t want to inject

End of.

Have a great day

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off course it was harmful advice, youre knowingly putting the guy into a crashed estrogen scenareo. which is 100% going to happen if he does this. furthermore youre youre saying for him to do 8-10 weeks of it at 50mg pw. Shutdown happens extrmely quickly even at 10mg on anavar, so youre pretty much going to make him estrogen deficient for nearly the whole 10 weeks. Which quickly becomes a shit situation. bone heath, insulin sensitivity, heart health, neuroprotctive, sexual health, this list goes on as to why having some estrogen is vital. This was bad advice from you, there is no rebuttal. No amount of loveheart will offset crashed estrogen, – being afraid of needles is ABSOLUTELY NOT a valid reason to run a cycle such as this, where having crashed estrogen can be avoided. Multiple cycles or not, we should always point people in the right direction, especially when a side effect such as this is so easily avoided. Come on Hilly, youre an educator on this site.

Also please note. There is one aspect to this that is physiological and another psychological

You may have no understanding here but the term childhood trauma is a huge one and could mean anything.

This is potentially the most valid reason not to do something.

Having worked with children who have suffered all sorts of trauma you must understand the long lasting effects and work with some one in these.

Trying to say this is not a valid reason is crazy buddy. Truly

You don’t know the OP situation- please take this into
Consideration when responding to things like this.

Not just on the forum but any were else you may interact with people.

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off course it was harmful advice, youre knowingly putting the guy into a crashed estrogen scenareo. which is 100% going to happen if he does this. furthermore youre youre saying for him to do 8-10 weeks of it at 50mg pw. Shutdown happens extrmely quickly even at 10mg on anavar, so youre pretty much going to make him estrogen deficient for nearly the whole 10 weeks. Which quickly becomes a shit situation. bone heath, insulin sensitivity, heart health, neuroprotctive, sexual health, this list goes on as to why having some estrogen is vital. This was bad advice from you, there is no rebuttal. No amount of loveheart will offset crashed estrogen, – being afraid of needles is ABSOLUTELY NOT a valid reason to run a cycle such as this, where having crashed estrogen can be avoided. Multiple cycles or not, we should always point people in the right direction, especially when a side effect such as this is so easily avoided. Come on Hilly, youre an educator on this site.

You my man are not thinking logically at all.

The drug is fine to be used for 8-10 weeks.

There is no issues here at all long term.

Yes for sure low dose testosterone would be a better choice.

He clearly states he doesn’t want to inject for personal reasons.

I am here to advise a person on the best way forward with there choices.

Not push them to inject themselves.

Not change there mind.

Not scare monger like you are.

Show we one person that has suffered those issues from an 8-10
Week anavar course. ??

One person that had any of those issues above or any long term damage.

It’s all well n good reading some science n taking it out of context n posting it on a forum.

It’s another when you have been working with people over ten years. Seen blood work pre n post oral
Cycles n know thousands that have done so with no issues.

This is why I’m an Educator here bud. I know the science n I know the real
World application ten times over.

So I can Advise people on THERE choices within THERE limits.

Not make silly bold statements from reading some literature. The issue with the world these days.

To repeat – 1 anavar only cycle for any one healthy is not going to cause any serious damage or irreversible damage for 99.9% of people

Long term it is a silly idea to only run oral
Only cycles consecutively

One a year will not help. Hundreds of thousands of this every summer

Would injecting be better. Yes as I stated yes but there is risk of infection just like there risk being that 0.01% who does oral only n has issue

There is no debate here – there is no argument

This is all my opinion n experience in line with medical studies (plenty on anavar showing 0 harm as posted ) and the people running oral only cycles n var only every year

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Thanks for all your help @Hilly . Sounds like best thing I can do is drop the npp for rest of cycle and reevaluate the next one. Looks like my body may not agree with nandrolone.

For the next one would test, primo and eq sound good or would eq put me in the same situation? Or does test, primo, mast sound better? This cycle would be to grow. Thanks

If it’s progesterone related then either will be fine instead NPP.

I’ve just had fantastic results from low dose test – Trt
High dose primo 6-800mg

No AI or anything needed

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So if this is first time using insulin I would take both the gh n insulin post workout bud.

3iu gh with 4iu humalog. Over 6 weeks you can taker the insulin up to 10.

From here I would take 4-6 weeks off.

Make sure using a GDA or metformin if need to keep sensitivity up.

From here I would look to add. Small pre workout dose in personally.

Another option is to run the GH pre bed n insulin pre or post.

Can both the HGH and skin be taken immediately post workout with no time needed between the 2 shots like 5 or 10 mins if makes no difference does it ? [/quote]
Yes they can be taken together

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I suppose we should add for Max

He is correct – anavar doesn’t aromatise – this is why some choose to use it

Making it not suitable for long term use – certainly correct

However this just not mean it’s not suitable for short term use

Nor does it mean your Estrogen will crash

You already know there are better options potentially

I’m just about to post a video this week on insta on my thoughts regarding first cycles – which I’m sure I’ll get some flack for ha

But the fact still remains in reality using Var as above will yield positive results on your physique and performance

With little to 0 long lasting impact on health

Short term – some neg impact on cholesterol- TrainedByJP love heart for this

Supplements I recommend already tho

Agreed it will cause a positive effect upon what the physique looks like, but just to clarify, I don’t want the guy then thinking its okay to do multiple anavar only cycles throughout the year because he’s afraid of needles. Because being deprived of estrogen for a good proportion of a whole year if he does multiple cycles, will cause issues. – he needs to find a long term solution [/quote]So you’re posts were wrong then.

Our advice wasn’t harmful or incorrect

Yours was.

He clearly states to begin with.

He does not say he’s going to run multiple cycles like this or our advice would be different.

Even one a year Woould be completely fine

Yet you say don’t listen to us. We’re harmful n irresponsible. Crazy my man

Most people do an oral first cycle n ease into things or decide this isn’t for them.

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H1 etc is fine

Test is double range but I would expect more for thar dose test

Estro is double range to so inline with test. If no sides I see no issue here

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