[Hilly]

As above.

Start the cycle

Test bloods week 5/6 will give you most accurate numbers

I’ve never used caber bar once in my life on a high NPP only cycle n most just don’t need it

Most do however need a low dose AI or drug in there as you have to control estro (primo )

However without bloods it’s just guess work

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[Hilly]

Tbh thinking this is second bad side I’ve heard from nolva

Not in a blue box is it ?

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Okay let’s choose between deca vs test, what would be better, high dose of test or just test or more deca less test??

Better for who ? Me or you ?

That’s the question really

On paper – nandrolone all
Day for muscle building.

Simply no debate

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[Hilly]

Your injecting testosterone so of course your LH n FSH will be low. It’s not yhF

It could be high Estrogen and low prolactin

What else are you taking ?

Change Trt dose to 125 weekly imo

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[Hilly]

Personal preference

It’s like saying white or brown bread –

Oats – more fibre – slower digestion

Cream of rice – no fibre – faster digestion

I can’t touch oats – ruins my stomach n prefer taste of COR

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Today’s food

4100 kcal

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I would avoid fina. Not a nice drug for a lot tbh it seems.

Get bloods done ASAP

Estro

Prolactin

Progesterone

Testosterone

Hi Hilly, how would you assess the hair loss cause via these 4 hormones? Any relation with hair loss and progesterone and prolactin!

I’m really curious [/quote]

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[Hilly]

?

Try to use a beta blocker after training like propranolol[/quote]
Don’t do this imo

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[Hilly]

NPP/ deca is more anabolic and thus will create more muscle.

Then it’s about what you need from the other drugs and managing estro

If you do some form of performance sport then EQ may help

If your a real big guy then EQ may also help

Increased RBC

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[Hilly]

Perfect and that makes more sense. Yeah I like the way you broke it down which is how I always do as well. Some are thinking “hey if I do this thing that totally inconvenient like wake up at 3am just to take a dose of GH I will get more benefits out of it”.

But how much benefit is the real question and are you a top competitor that needs that extra .05% possible benefit is the better question. For me it’s not unless it’s more like a 10% or above that. Cuz I don’t wanna wake up at 3am and jab myself for less than 10% benefit. But if your job is to win at something and need every possible benefit you can get… it would be worth it.

Thanks and appreciate you taking the time to break it down so much.

Fully agree buddy.

My pleasure

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[Hilly]

I would avoid fina. Not a nice drug for a lot tbh it seems.

Get bloods done ASAP

Estro
Prolactin
Progesterone
Testosterone

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Yesterday was

Calves / tri / hit cardio as was bored

Nothing exciting

Shoulders / chest today

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You said 2iu causes major fatigue.

I’m just giving you the only options to potentially work around this

1-2iu maximises fat loss according to medical info for around 4 hours.

So simply do 1 hour pre

1 hour post

Or put it immediately pwo for the other benefits you will get

Try dosing 1iu every 4 hours of the day

It’s very much up to you to see what works here

I would be doing

1iu on wake

1iu lunch time

1iu pre gym

For fat loss taking into consideration 2iu makes u feel bad n your trying to avoid

Hope that helps

Thanks and it does help. I have some testing to do.

I have also read you said taking HGH with or without food doesn’t matter. Which almost all broscience guys say you should wait at least 1 hour after eating and don’t eat for 1 hour after taking it to prevent insulin spike. Any truth to their thinking of this?

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[Hilly]

You said 2iu causes major fatigue.

I’m just giving you the only options to potentially work around this

1-2iu maximises fat loss according to medical info for around 4 hours.

So simply do 1 hour pre

1 hour post

Or put it immediately pwo for the other benefits you will get

Try dosing 1iu every 4 hours of the day

It’s very much up to you to see what works here

I would be doing

1iu on wake

1iu lunch time

1iu pre gym

For fat loss taking into consideration 2iu makes u feel bad n your trying to avoid

Hope that helps

Thanks and it does help. I have some testing to do.

I have also read you said taking HGH with or without food doesn’t matter. Which almost all broscience guys say you should wait at least 1 hour after eating and don’t eat for 1 hour after taking it to prevent insulin spike. Any truth to their thinking of this?

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There may be a 0.05% extra Benefit but I truly don’t believe so

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