[Hilly]

You said 2iu causes major fatigue.

I’m just giving you the only options to potentially work around this

1-2iu maximises fat loss according to medical info for around 4 hours.

So simply do 1 hour pre

1 hour post

Or put it immediately pwo for the other benefits you will get

Try dosing 1iu every 4 hours of the day

It’s very much up to you to see what works here

I would be doing

1iu on wake

1iu lunch time

1iu pre gym

For fat loss taking into consideration 2iu makes u feel bad n your trying to avoid

Hope that helps

Thanks and it does help. I have some testing to do.

I have also read you said taking HGH with or without food doesn’t matter. Which almost all broscience guys say you should wait at least 1 hour after eating and don’t eat for 1 hour after taking it to prevent insulin spike. Any truth to their thinking of this?

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[Hilly]

You said 2iu causes major fatigue.

I’m just giving you the only options to potentially work around this

1-2iu maximises fat loss according to medical info for around 4 hours.

So simply do 1 hour pre

1 hour post

Or put it immediately pwo for the other benefits you will get

Try dosing 1iu every 4 hours of the day

It’s very much up to you to see what works here

I would be doing

1iu on wake

1iu lunch time

1iu pre gym

For fat loss taking into consideration 2iu makes u feel bad n your trying to avoid

Hope that helps

Thanks and it does help. I have some testing to do.

I have also read you said taking HGH with or without food doesn’t matter. Which almost all broscience guys say you should wait at least 1 hour after eating and don’t eat for 1 hour after taking it to prevent insulin spike. Any truth to their thinking of this?

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There may be a 0.05% extra Benefit but I truly don’t believe so

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[Hilly]

Sounds like your just very sensitive to the sides

They do subside after 3-4 weeks usually

You could try

1iu pre morning cardio

2iu pre without or 1iu pre n 1iu post

Thanks and I might try the morning fasted dose again next week.

As far as 1iu pre-workout and then 1iu post-workout… is a 1hr 30min to 2hr enough time gap to make a difference between those 2 shots? Or do you need 4 hours cuz of the pulse time?

[/quote]You said 2iu causes major fatigue.

I’m just giving you the only options to potentially work around this

1-2iu maximises fat loss according to medical info for around 4 hours.

So simply do 1 hour pre

1 hour post

Or put it immediately pwo for the other benefits you will get

Try dosing 1iu every 4 hours of the day

It’s very much up to you to see what works here

I would be doing

1iu on wake

1iu lunch time

1iu pre gym

For fat loss taking into consideration 2iu makes u feel bad n your trying to avoid

Hope that helps

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[Hilly]

Why would you avoid dairy? Digestion issues?

A good coach here in spain used to put you on around 2000mg of calcium if the diet was high on protein in order ti avoid decalcification of the bones preventing the acidity (more alkaline environment)

Yes of course.

I see no need for that personally imo

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[Hilly]

Not needed.

Use the search feature.

This has been covered loads

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[Hilly]

I see why people used to do it.

However I think now we know it’s not a great idea.

I would rather use an oral if I needed faster peak levels of hormones or design the timing of cycle better so no rush

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I would do primo personally but if not sure then mast.

However in these situations an oral like var would imo be better

Less chance the drugs lingering n effecting blood work the doctor does

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[Hilly]

Sounds like your just very sensitive to the sides

They do subside after 3-4 weeks usually

You could try

1iu pre morning cardio

2iu pre without or 1iu pre n 1iu post

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[Hilly]

Surplus doesn’t have to huge. As long as weight is going up. Strength is going up and body fat isn’t getting too high you are more than likely on the right path.

How much weight increase x week would you say is a good reference when bulking???[/quote]
4-6lb a month imo.

However I no some natural coaches prefer 2-4lb a month

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[Hilly]

Never have I calculated it for a client privately

Only with patients in the nhs who have a medical deficiency

I do supplement with it due to avoiding all dairy but just simply the recommended dose on the tub.

Nothing over complicated

1000mg daily

To much can be bad for you

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[Hilly]

Body feels good

Bicep not great still but manageable

Going go doctors ask for mri for or ultra sound n if not will go private

Trained back n bi yesterday

Weight dropped to 226-227 after 3 days rest which is gd

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Taking an oral with increase the androgen load and Increase protein synthesis during its active time

It will potentially or definitely increase strength

It’s science that this will have a positive effect on muscle growth. That’s just a fact

Now will it help the lagging muscle?

Potentially not if it’s a connection/ training / mechanic issue

But it’s defo worth a try and I do this will clients

For the exact same reason you will do high carbs on these days / higher cal meals / insulin

Oral of choice – the one that causes the least amount of sides for you

The one you know is real

Yes thank you for the answer. Super interesting but my question was Also how fast acting is it lets say i take it pre workout 1-2 hour before Will it have the strength throug the session then?

Because i was afraid that if taking it lets say Monday and Friday on push session it wont work at the specifik session because it need to ” build” upp the effekt on taking it on a daili basis for a longer period. So my question is taking it lets say monday and friday 1 hour pre Training it Will effekt the Training One hour later? [/quote]

Yes. For all the reasons I just said.

Orals act there n then in general if digestion is gd.

This is the idea of an oral plus ease of use.

If you want to truly know then bring up graphs in the drug your looking at n see how long they take to peak ?

For me I find 90-120 mins perfect if wanting a strength kick

I would favour Superdrol for this

If wanting more of a pump / cell swell effect – oxy or SD

Performance- Tbol

Recovery / growth and anti catabolic – var

But as I know you have seen me say before pick the drug for its mechanisms im sure your taking all of this into your thought pattern

You could argue tho it’s way over thinking for most – that I would agree with to

But who said that’s a bad thing ?‍♂️[/quote]

As always a great answer thank you brother you are a legend i understand everything about it now:) [/quote]
My pleasure

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