[Hilly]

Day 4. Test and release 2moro

Home Saturday. Ended up eating pizza n Easter egg Sunday n it’s ruined my guts.

This week is going to be lower food n kcal with a little fasting

Then straight back to it. Weight has been holding at 220
Now n I’m imo wasting drugs trying to keep bf down n tight. I’m at week 4 of hormone use

Cycle is still
375 sust
600 primo
T4 100 mcg
Gh – medi 1/4 bottle pre bed – increasing to 1/4 AM n 1/4 pre bed this week

Jabs are MWF – no AI yet

Going to get bloods at Eval next week.

Food will go to 3k kcal daily from Monday

Rest days I will just miss carbs meal 1

Now the focus is going to all out growth n not on staying lean while doing so there is no need for the rotation

Avoiding carbs meal 1 is purely to aid in my slow transit issue n this may need to move to meals 2/3 based on digestion

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Will keep an eye on EGFR came back at 63 on medichecks but 67 at doctors so will trust docs result more. Full dose of vital support and SN astra g flow should keep that in check.
2 a day love heart but will up that to 4 a day now. I have blood letting booked for early June as was earliest I could get but pleased to hear it isn’t much of a concern.
@Hilly, my TSH reading has increased slightly which is why it concerned me as I’ve always had a fast metabolism and never struggled to lose weight. It was 4.19 and now 4.99. Can get a full thyroid function test soon or see if I can get in at docs.
Thanks for the input everyone

This would concern me to. High tsh means there is a lot of signalling going to the thyroid as if it’s not making enough or the body is not converting enough t4 to t3

Hence us needing free t3 read

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and what is meal 1 ?

if this was me, i would not use any intra workout – just water.

and then eat 90mins after the session when hungrier for it.

the later meals can then be adjusted to fit into your day

what time do you wake, train and then go to bed? i can offer a suggestion ?

I had the exact same symptoms.
I woke up at 6, ate at 6:30, started workout at 8:30, slept at 10 o’clock.
Can I get help too?
pre workout meal (Cor and whey or oat whey )
Intra (Hbcd 30 eaa 10 creatine 5 )
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What happens when you drop the intra ?

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I understand Hilly, but when i had chicken rice and veg pre meal and pwo just rice and chicken or cream of rice with banana same thing would happen. So no matter what meals i rotate or i drop just to carbs/pro, same thing happens after pwo meal.

What happen with no intra

What happens with the reduced water amount I suggested

I have 3 current clients that simply can’t use intra products

No major deal. Body builders did pretty well for 40-50 years with just water.

Do they help? Yes imho
Are they a must for an awesome physique – no

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For me sounds like your pre meal is the issue.

Drop the banana n dark choc. Add in coconut oil n honey

I would reduce the water in the pre workout to 300ml coconut water

Then sip the intra on way to gym n during

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I definitely agree with Jimmy. I would be working protein up before fats in your current situation

Then if digestion allows I see no issues with more fats

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The only concern to me here is tsh tbh.

However i would want my free t3 reading before making any decisions on supplements

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Hard one tbh.

Most report some form of libido boost from proviron

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Yes. Seen this in. Few cases

Usually people using sterile water n not bac water for Injection

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Trt recommended doses are 100-200mg

Most only need 100-150mg

So start here

If you cycle using 250mg it’s not a cruise is it staying on 250mg

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1g daily year round 2g if I’ll

Up to 6g during peak week

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Simply GH

You have 1200mg AAS

150mg tren ain’t doing anything positive on this that would out weight the potential negative it will bring

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Split even imo

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There is no optimal way, all depends on the individual. For example I can’t take it 1st thing because I feel lethargic after using it. So I use mine post workout. If I wanted two doses I would do 2iu post and 2iu pre bed.

If u take it Post workout or pre bed, how do u make it with the meals? Do u not need to take it on emtpy stomach? Or not to eat in 1-2h after the pin? [/quote]
Nope. Absolutely not

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Hey Rico.
You can pin the sust e5d and wouldn’t notice much if any difference tbh at that frequency but like you have pointed out it’s better to pin it Ed or eod. If you are susceptible to sides like acne etc the higher frequency and micro dosing will be better suited

Thanks for the reply, I thought so. Do you know why the prescription trt is sust instead of just one ester of test like an enth seeing as they aim to pin it every 2-3 weeks? [/quote]

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