[James]

Exactly that! You will always be able to say “I did everything I possibly could” and then it’s all data after that.

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Your mindset is that you are ‘Deeply motivated, driven and passionate about the routine’ and you want to see how much you enjoy the process. So go for it, give it everything you have, step on stage and then make a decision as to whether you want to continue competitively or just bodybuild as a hobby/way of life. Don’t overthink this.

Absolutely.

Ive not been thinking about whatll be the end product both mentally and emotionally in a repetitive way. Just day by day actions! Yeah ill do my absolute best not to overthink the bigger picture.

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Don’t mistake my comment for “you must win at all costs”

I simply responded to what you asked. Should you try and enjoy it? Absolutely! You’re already a realist. Do you HAVE to enjoy it? No. If you go through this and find it isn’t your thing, no biggie. You’d never know if you didn’t try it.

Like you say, it didn’t shake you off, and that’s the place I’m coming from above.

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Agree with Jordan.

Same volume, same recovery demand for the same distance between sessions.

If you did 2 on A and 4 on B, you’re asking the body to recover from double the work in the same time frame ready for your next A session.

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I’m not talking about bodybuilding here, Moreso everything you’ll do in life from business to sport to life goals and achievements etc…

I’d say it’s normal to be realistic, but less normal to adopt a winning mindset because if it were, winners wouldn’t stand out.

A bodybuilding example you can use is this: does a pro become pro because they behaved and executed everything like an amateur and brought an amateur level physique to stage? No. They behaved, trained, moved like a pro and built a pro level physique before turning pro. Getting their card was a byproduct of their actions.

Execute everything to the best you possibly can, whilst focusing on your goal. If you place 5th, accept it, learn, adapt as you’ll be proud and happy still because you gave it everything. Again, this isn’t just bodybuilding, apply it to anything you do and do it with intent. No holds barred.

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“Progress has been amazing”

Change things when the above sentence no longer applies.

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Lifts you can progress, recover from and enjoy will render results if you are consistent with them. Stick with a programme for a long long time and run it into the ground. If you need to swap a lift for a like-for-like variant, so be it, but consistency is your friend.

Re: PPL UL… I’m currently doing this split atm and have been for a month after nearly 18 months on the same U/L (only swapped a row out towards the end because the machine I used broke before Xmas) and it gives me a few things that I benefit from…

– 3 upper body session for every 2 leg days. My legs developed well on U/L but my upper didn’t advance as well.

– I love a good Push, Pull, Legs cycle where I can up the volume slightly and have some fun with my gym time. Plus I can dedicate a session to the areas that didn’t grow as well on U/L because Upper sessions were condensed.

– Frequency is middle ground. More leeway for extra volume, BUT it’s not too infrequent either.

– I can still do my old Upper/Lower sessions that I did before as I really enjoyed those too!

So to answer if there’s a difference or not. Obviously there is because you can fit more chest/back/delt work into your split on Push and Pull, but you’d need to make it make sense for you.

Fatigue and Recovery aren’t the same. We train tired or not, you can feel amazing on the day and the muscle may not perform as it isn’t recovered. You can train tired and progress. Let us know how you go on.

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[James]

Clare has this one zipped up. Can get a lot done with limited kit. To add to it, if you have somewhere you can attach a pulley to, about £30-35 on Amazon. Don’t need weight plates either. You can fill a bag/sack/rucksack with pebbles etc

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Thank you for everyone’s input, yesterday I was told I could have an operation in a couple of days.

Has anyone here broken there clavicle.

I don’t know if to have the surgery and plate fitted or leave it to heal naturally. It’s a clean break, not shortened or anything. I don’t know what’s best and I’ve got to make a decision tomorrow.

Just hoping for some information.

Yes, but I was in my teens at the time (playing rugby) so the Consultant who dealt with me was reluctant to operate as I was young enough to heal quickly without issue. Looking back, it’s never hindered me, but in the 90’s there wasn’t as many gadgets and procedures as there are now, so research this type of op to death and see how you feel once you’ve studied it.

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[James]

Agree with Maddy and Sas. It’ll likely be an execution fix due to your chest being “generally underdeveloped” which suggests it’s not a new issue and you’ve noticed it for some time.

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The guys above have made great points.

I think communication needs to be better on both ends though. They could be more calming and thorough, explaining everything along the way and you need to be able to ask them questions so they can rationalise their decision making.

If you’re leaner and have more muscle tissue, you’re in a far better spot to start with, so they’ll be why they’re not bolting at 20.

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Feeling/sensation/pumps will come as a result of training accurately and intensely. Training solely for the sensation may feel good, but you need to be sure you’re targeting the muscle accurately.

The points you mentioned above are correct. Controlling the weight whilst still giving it some is better than that just yanking weight about, risking injury whilst not fully using the intended muscle. A good example of this would be look at all the young lads in the gym who have massive arms and small chests and backs. They’ll usually be the ones bench pressing and rowing like they’re boogying at the same time 😆

The athletes on here have some unrivalled content when it comes to form and exercise breakdown…and it’s free!

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Hi mate

I like the PPL R UL R splits. This is obviously a variant

The absolute volume will come down to what you can and can’t progress, you should have some gauge on that from the PPL split you’ve been running – enough to make a sensible start point.

The split in principle is sound though.

Thanks, Rich. Seen PPL UL before but wasn’t sure if Lower Back loading in Pull before Legs was the best decision there. In your experience, how did you set up/what considerations did you have for the PPL R UL R split?

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I’m running PPL UL at the moment and my erector/hinges are in Legs and Lower. I get a rest day after I’ve hinged (45° Hyper) and the hinge again in lower (DB RDL).

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Where would the rest days sit if it’s 4 x p/w? Would it be T/L/rest/T/L/rest x 2 and repeat?

I like Oscar’s suggestion. It gives you frequency in what you’re bringing up. Another plus to this is you have 1 leg day p/w so less frequency means you can add volume and have fun with it.

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Push being 2 sleeps away from each other would mean you’re asking for FBEOD recovery demand whilst applying U/L volume. I’d space your push work apart if possible or just do 1 set of each movement on your Upper. First few sessions may go well, but I think you’ll start runners by into a wall at some point.

Any reason you opted to do Legs before Push? Do you normally do this and how did it go if so?

Thanks – makes sense. Legs before Push was to give one day between Legs and a Lower-back Loading Pull session since I’ve had a previous low back injury. This was my way of mitigating some risk within the split design itself. I’ve done the sequence of LPP in the past and it didn’t hinder progression on Push.

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If it didn’t hinder you then it wouldn’t be an issue here, but wasn’t sure if legs was a priority over other body parts or vica versa.

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Push being 2 sleeps away from each other would mean you’re asking for FBEOD recovery demand whilst applying U/L volume. I’d space your push work apart if possible or just do 1 set of each push movement on your Upper. First few sessions may go well, but I think you’ll start running into a wall at some point.

Any reason you opted to do Legs before Push? Do you normally do this and how did it go if so?

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