Jordan Peters
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So the part where it says , 100mcg igf , 50 left bi 50 right , is a clue haha
The clues are all in there
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Very good session, very very strong ! I feel cycles so quickly , it’s like that small power jump! I didn’t exactly clear out very long , but it’s enough for me to feel a boost when I re add.
Fasted BG 4.3 , I stuck at the 12iu Lantus still as it’s doing a fucking unreal job with the reta
Before pre meal, BG 4.6
30 mins post meal 30 mins pre training 1 bottle gh
Started to sip intra on the way to gym
Got to gym BG 5.6 ! Good , not silly .
Took 100mcg igf des , 50 left bi 50 right
Trained and sipped through , needed to check BG as didn’t know the impact of the des , my BG didn’t climb above 5.5 the whole session despite taking in 110g carbs
Bloods at the end of the session pre igf lr3 , 4.3 , I had some shake left so bolted it
Got home pwo meal in straight away !
So I’m walking a tight line here with the Lantus in but also playing with igf pre and post . My BG held for the most part as I had my pre meal an hour before ( oats ) so that would have been digesting through the first part , with the Intra shake ontop , keeping me good. By the end I’m dropping again as there is no oat left and the Intra is near gone , so then I get my pwo meal in fast ! And now I’m good
I legit got an insane bicep pump off just 2 sets of biceps lol!
No fast insulin , my second bottle of GH will be when I wake in the night for first pee
Upping my Reta again tonight to 0.8 ! I can handle it , I want to see it I can do 1mg through this push as I get as I up food , on that , I still won’t need much of any insulin , despite 2 bottles of GH ! WILD !
I will start to taper up my cycle from the 3.1g start point to 4g , as I do I will taper the primo out for eq
12 weeks I have decided on ! As then I want a break from tbe igf des and lr3 and pull back to one bottle gh just in the night .
I look like I’m changing fast ! I’m fucking excited as I haven’t gone for it like this in a long long time
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I’m trying to keep it as high as I can for what it’s doing to my IS . So the last few days has been back at 0.7mg a day again . The fact I needed no fast insulin at all yday , is defo due to the Reta . It will pro long an offseaons ability to maintain sensitivity while pushing GH hard INSANELY well
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Ya the oral is a big limit
Gh + reta , that’s all you need
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I take mots c , 5 amino and meth blue on wake , and then j take ss31 1 hour pre
Ok so this has been super interesting today
So my on wake bg was 4.3 , I are ate , took 12iu Lantus . I checked my bg again before the ore meal and I was still only 4.6 , so I didn’t take any insulin which was meant to start covering the GH impeding glucose uptake at the session but what is clear is my IS is so high atm I don’t even need it !
Took 12iu GH 45 mins after my pre meal , 45 mins pre workout .
At the gym checked my bg again to see what the pre meal had done and I was at 5.7 , defo no need for insulin . I took in 100c across the workout and checked bg at intervals during where it held constant at 5.6/5.7 the whole session , no insulin needed . I got to the end , before I took my igf , took it again and I was at 4.6 ! Imagine I had taken some insulin and was guessing today . It would of floored me
I had 15g of my carbs left from my intra that I kept back to take with my igf to bridge me until home . Took that in one hit , and in 5 mins I’m home as in round tbe corner
Oats and whey go on , check bg and I’m 5.2 , still defo no need for any insulin
Have pwo meal, I know I don’t need any with that as igf improves IS too .
Between pwo meal and post post , I held at mid 5s
So in short , I am going to be 2 bottles of GH today and only 12iu of Lantus .
I will lower that to 10iu Tmo and run the same bg checks and react accordingly !
Very very very exciting to know I can have a serious run of pushing like this with insane control of IR , which has to be tbe reta and mito!
Will post the session on insta . Very strong !
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Yes
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Do you get on ok with nandrolone ?
When you usually run test primo , what ratio ? And I’m assuming no a.i ?
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If what you have is real it doesn’t matter at all. So I would send yours off for testing if you want that re assurance , that test will cost you £250 . So then you have spent £325
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Push today , body feels good !
Just tidying things up a little with the GH into just 2 pulses at the areas that allow for max Insuljn resistance offsetting , pre workout and during the night . The third then being post workout but I’m not using that window atm while using igf .
I’m making these adjusts based on tracking fasted GB and trying tj keep it as low as I can by consolidating / moving around GH , as it’s that which drives IR ( insulin resistance ) up
So fasted BG today 4.3 nmol/l – very good !
No am gh , 12 iu Lantus with meal 1
Pre workout meal will have 6iu fast insulin with jt , 30 mins later , 1 bottle gh ( So my GH are 10-12 iu , some are 10/11/12 , that’s how it goes with Chinese stuff ) .
Start trainjnf and sipping Intra and then 20 ish in , 1.5iu fast .
We know that 12 iu gh is going to impede glucose uptake hard ! Muscle contraction and glut 4 will over ride a lot but defo not all , and that’s where making sure adequate fast is in the vicinity of bolus GH doses .
I’m not sure about the mega doses of insulin Milos advocates . I am unsure if the physiology supports the idea that mega doses will be more anabolic , from my understanding of how those pathways work, it doesn’t , but equally he will of seen something of Merit in it with his guys . So how that looks is you move an even larger proportion of your carbs to the wo perimeter to support insulin of 25iu pre and post . I did thah with him and it works ! But I think it also comes with its own issues and ability to increase visceral fat storage due to rapid declines in IR at those doses . So I’m happy with my 6 and 1.5 for now
Post just igf lr3 , I will check BG here to see if any fast insulin is needed too , if the shake has seen me run high as the GH pre did a job on offsetting that storage and I didn’t quite cover it with enough insulin , I know to take a touch more next time as I want those intra carbs being pulled in and used , them being in the blood is useless!
No more GH rest of day , and then 1 bottle again during the night
That is the cleanest way to run 20ish iu gh a day possible , without a ton of insulin needed which will see IR drive up over time
I plan to run this 12 ish weeks and monitor bG at diff points to assess how far my IR is sliding as it will take more insulin to dk the same job over time when combined with GH
So if you hear someone say, insulin in of itself doesn’t increase IR as diabetics don’t need to up the dose always . Remember the clear counter argument , we are taking the insulin as it’s the GH causing the IR , over time the continued exposure to that GH and insulin will see a decline in IR further and need more insulin . That’s when we re jig again ( go all night time shot ) , while we re gain IS ( insulin sensitivity )
Hope this all helps explain my thinking . I’m not outsourcing this info, it’s all my own from working with Milo’s and then tweaking my own ideas based on understanding IR and IS .
The cool part here is we have reta and the mito stack working hardddd in our favour , so we need less insulin to do the same job which means more GH for longer – WIN!
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Yes
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Does your pen come with a hplc test report ? With pro forma you literally get one in your order that shows you exactly what’s in your product .
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So I would go 1 , 0.8 , 0.7 , 0.6 , 0.5 , 0.4 , 0.3 , 0.2 and then none
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Taper it back down from 14 days out so it’s then fully out by 7
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Jan I would only trust something hplc tested as you have no clue what’s in it . So I can only advise pro forma peptides based on hplc I have seen.
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Mots c 2mg a day and Reta 0.5mg – 1mg a day
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