[Jordan Peters]

hey alex, I have that meal pre just to be sure I feel decent from the off in the session, previously it takes me a while to get going off just fruit, which I don’t mind in prep, but in this phase oats leave me feeling gd and it covers the slin well as I have some circulating blood sugars. you can likely do 5iu + gh and just use your peri shake, I don’t think you could go hypo doing that tbh, it would need to be like 10-12iu to cause you issues.

rf is raging full, ADs product. its a v gd product tbh. and then I use genetic pepto pro, genetic creatine and I’m about to get some gentic leucine seeing as I’m using slin it makes sense to add leucine to maximise the potential increase of protein synthesis from the slin. I take the slin 35mins pre wo, and post 45mins after training. typically my sessions take 2 hours, so its over 3 hours between shots

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dan , its a full upper bod but the first two moves are a shoulder press variation and a tricep press variation, then I do chest iso and tricep iso moves before moving onto back

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[Jordan Peters]

255 today, pushing up a touch now. looked a little fuller yday in the gym and haven’t got too soft yet, I’m obv not hard/dry as I’m 10 pounds up on my lowest weight and I’m not taking any fun gear, but yday was a fun session – it was brutally hot in ripped which made it sweaty which I like haha

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[Jordan Peters]

correct, zero formal cardio, but neat climbed, training volume climbed, intensity climbed and calories dropped.

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[Jordan Peters]

either/or buddy, I use the wellman test

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[Jordan Peters]

the more info you can get the better, so base your tests on what you can afford

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[Jordan Peters]

tudca, nac and choline inositol will be most effective. your live enzymes really wont evelate much from that cycle, nothing that wont bounce back within 4 weeks of ceasing them and carrying on with the liver aids

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[Jordan Peters]

mike no reason, I change my fat and carb sources all the time

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[Jordan Peters]

hey steve, just standard rolled oats for now, and water for me yes

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[Jordan Peters]

tom, if only having a month break it makes much more sense dropping the dose to 150mg of test for those 4 weeks, and tbh id advise 6 week gap, in that period ensuring you don’t back off training intensity, after the 6 weeks Id check blood work and all being well that second cycle looks great

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[Jordan Peters]

hey ben, hydration will impact slightly, shoot for 4-5 litres a day and again ensure u increase sea salt on food or you will go flat. and then from here, its calories down and energy output up, to see fat loss. monitor your daily steps and ensure they don’t ever drop

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[Jordan Peters]

dan this is still true for natural guys/girls. push up then tidy up, push up then tidy up.

I think 12 weeks is nice as its a long enough time to eeek out nice size gains but also so you can go slow and steady.

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[Jordan Peters]

254 today, so ydays high day pushed me up a little but nothing crazy, even with the slin addition. max il take that slin to will be 10:10 , but my plan is to spend a while creeping it up v slowly to eeek out everything I can from less of a dose.

medium day today, less cals, no slin , upper body session

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[Jordan Peters]

shaun, just shifting to more carbs this run buddy, I’m leaner and training with slightly more volume and my NEAT levels are higher, so this all lends to favouring glycogen as fuel. this defo isn’t a low fat diet at all either, imo low fat would be sub 30g/day – remember also right now I’m 8 pounds over my stage weight, if and when I push up more I may utilise a few more fats, but still not too many more, I will favour carbs 🙂

yes, simply because it will slow the uptake of the carbs, we want quick quick uptake here

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[Jordan Peters]

hey guys, so this is where I’m at with food for next week. Corinne and I discussed the changes, its v useful having her as my go to here.

so my training is section of the week 2 of trained by jp split atm, as I’m still feeling out the volume, learnt quickly today that 15 hard sets for legs is the cap, having done 4 sets of rack pulls and 3 sets rows wed.

mon – legs and biceps
tue; push
wed : pull
thurs rest
fri: legs
sat ; upper bod ( delt n tricep press focused)
sun rest

food this is where I’m at, I haven’t added up trace cals, so stuff in the oats, bagels, cereal would brign another 200-250 cals again, weight this morn was 253.5

cycle this week, 700 primo, 350 trestalone
4iu gh per day
25mcg t3 / day
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high days will have 7iu slin pre and pwo ( its gone in haha) each with 1.5iu gh, my other 1iu gh is first thing on wake. my plan is 3 more weeks on this cycle, which right now for me is a cruise, then I’m going to kick it up into overdrive and see what I can do, I want to really make a huge leap forward in my look. in an ideal world I would cruise on less for longer and get bloods in range, but that’s not the realism is what I want to achieve here, so doing the best I can to not be wreckless with health and still nail my goals

HIGH DAY – MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY

P – 505 – 2020

F – 80 – 720

C – 487 – 1948

KCALS – 4688

MEAL 1 – 200g salmon, 65g avocado, peptopro – 60P/34f
PRE GYM MEAL – 75g whey, 75g oats – 60P/45c
INTRA – 5g BA, 5g creatine, 70g peptopro, 124g rf- 60P/100c

PWO MEAL – 37g peptopro, 5g creatine, 150g chicken, 2 bagels (72c) 40g of jam (22c) 79g coco pops, 100g choc shreddies (116c) – 60P/242c

MEAL – 150g chicken, 1 bagel, 37g whey, 73g oats – 70p/80c
MEAL – 200g rump steak, 70g avocado, courgette, mushroom, spinach, 13g whey, 250g yoghurt, 135g strawberries – 75p/20f/20c

PRE BED – 75g whey, 24g almond butter -60P/13f
DURING THE NIGHT – 75g whey, 24g almond butter – 60P/13F

MEDIUM DAY – TUESDAY/SATURDAY

P – 500 – 2000

F – 63 – 567

C – 367 – 1468

KCALS – 4035

MEAL 1 – 150g salmon, peptopro – 60P/17f
PRE GYM MEAL – 75g whey, 75g oats – 60P/45c
INTRA – 5g BA, 5g creatine, 70g peptopro, 95g RF – 60P/75c

PWO MEAL – 37g peptopro, 5g creatine, 150g chicken, 2 bagels (72c) 30g of jam (15c) 65g coco pops, 60g choc shreddies (88c) – 60p/187c

MEAL – 200g chicken, 1 bagel…250g yoghurt, 20g whey, 100g strawberry, 50g raspberries, 50g kiwi – 80p/ 60c

MEAL – 150g rump steak, 88g avocado, courgette, mushroom, spinach, 37g whey, 60P/20f
PRE BED – 75g whey, 24g almond butter -60P/13f
DURING THE NIGHT – 75g whey, 24g almond butter – 60P/13F

REST DAY:

P – 440 – 1760

F – 103 – 927

C – 64 – 256

KCALS – 2943

MEAL 1 – 150g salmon, peptopro –60P/17f
MEAL 2 – 200g chicken, 50g sweet potato, 20g whey 16g almond butter, 200g Greek yog – 70p/8f/18c
MEAL 3 – 200g 4.5% beef + 20g protein from whey/pepto pro+ 65g avocado, 3 rice cakes – 60p/19f/16c
MEAL 4 – 200g chicken , courgette, mushroom, spinach, 20g whey, 16g almond butter, 200g Greek yog, 50g strawberries, 35g raspberries, 35g kiwi – 70p/8f/18c
MEAL 5 – 200g 4.5% beef + 20g whey/ 65g avocado, 2 rice cakes – 60p/19f/12c
PRE BED – 75g whey, 29g almond butter – 60p/16f

DURING THE NIGHT – 75g whey, 29g almond butter – 60p/ 16f

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[Jordan Peters]

what class are you doing joe? best of luck, anyway I can help, always ask me on here, in the forum, more then keen to contribute if and when I can 🙂

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