[mark ferrara]

I have the same issue, tren seems to jack it up the most . I’d definitely add cardio in

[mark ferrara]

Sleep is 8 hours a night .. diet rice veggies r meat. 3-4 grand i of gear and about 15 iu gh. I think adding tren (something i haven’t touched in years) is what has brought it up about 12 points since nothing else changed . I may be getting too old to mess with this compound.

[mark ferrara]

I hit 273.3 a couple days ago , I’m going to call it there on this push , I was going to do a few weeks more but I’m happy i have got what I need from it , I was 240 15 weeks ago , maxed out at 273.3 , I’m going to do an 8 week tidy , drop a ton of water and then absolutely rocket it all again for another push . I am so so happy with the muscle I gained in that last one , I actually learnt a lot too as it was the highest I had ever ran test , highest eq , highest GH . So no shit I grew rhe most in that period I ever have

I’m going to swap now to :

1g test

1g primo

350mg mast p

50 anavar

50 Winnie / day

Gh down to 1 bottle

Will add 20 clen straight from the off

Lower my carbs aswell by 80g on training day , 50g on a rest day

My t3 is 25 and zero t4

In this phase I was to see what a little gc1 does , and then pro forma has some tesofensine coming so I want to try that as it sounds awesome , and I will bump my slu dose a little too , to see what that does

I expect to drop a lot of water fast !

If you’re injecting 100mg Nad+ daily(as well as the rest of the “Mito stack” ..is oral nmn overkill/unesscesqary since NNM is essentially a precursor to NAD+?

Also is proforma still coming to USA soon?

[mark ferrara]

Mark I use a liposomal glutathione atm

Thank you sir: Do you find that cycles with one compound high dosed (test base of course) works better for you than multiple compounds at lighter doses? Milo’s wrote me a setup years ago with several injectable s lower dosed and 2 Orals and seemed to prefer one injectable higher dosed and maybe an oral occasionally .

[mark ferrara]

Good today ! Just the 3 movements , all time pbs on the prime press .

Keen to see what just the dip brings to the arm . I want ti try to get really fucking good at that super deep dip

Hell ya! Sorry to be redundant but didn’t know if you saw it.. do you use injectable Glutathione at all currently ? I could’ve sworn i saw it in your protocol at some point

[mark ferrara]

Mark I just don’t need someone touching me on a rest day . Many like it . I train very hard , I’m very very tired on a rest day , doing that makes me way more tired again vs walks , a nap , and trying to switch off . They turn into nutrition consults / motivational hours too , where I get quizzed on everything I’m doing . Which exhausts me even more . I could happily go into like a Thai one where the person doesn’t speak English , doesn’t talk to me , and then gives a massage that’s a fully relaxing one . But even then i would recover more sitting on the sofa watching a film . I don’t need any of the shit I see a ton of people do , cold plunges / red light therapy etc etc . I would wipe the floor with all the people that do that shit in a training session , because I do what I know I need to do , which js switch off as much as I can from the world

That’s a good point , the whole process becomes more of a headache/production too. Do you use Glutathione at all/if so how much? I thought i recalled you using it at one point but maybe I’m imagining.

[mark ferrara]

Hey Jordan .. do you use Glutiathione and if so what dose per week? And i do recall you not being a fan of massage for recovery .. still the case? I am starting to think they are a bit overrated myself

[mark ferrara]

Just another recap for you all, just to show where I’m at. I’m just rolling with ppl still , if it takes me longer to assess the glute machines then so be it

Food :

Meal 1 — On Wake

220 g keta → 53 P / 13 F

Jasmine 175 g (raw) → 138 C

= 53 P / 138 C / 13 F

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Pre-Workout (~75–90 min out)

Isopro ×2 (almond milk) → 54 P

Jasmine 137 g (raw) → 108 C

= 54 P / 108 C / 0 F

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Intra (sip across)

PF ≈ 100 g (raw 92 % carb) → 90 C

Fructose 20 g → 20 C

Hydro/EAAs 20 g → 20 P

= 20 P / 110 C / 0 F

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Immediate Post (0–10 min)

Isopro ×2 (water) → 54 P

Jasmine 208 g (raw) → 165 C

= 54 P / 165 C / 0 F

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Meal 5 — Keta (PWO + 60)

220 g keta → 53 P / 13 F

Jasmine 166 g (raw) → 131 C

= 53 P / 131 C / 13 F

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Meal 6 — Steak

210 g fillet → 42 P / 13 F

Jasmine 168 g (raw) → 132 C

= 42 P / 132 C / 13 F

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Pre-Bed

Isopro ×3 (water) → 60 P

= 60 P / 0 C / 0 F

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✅ Daily Totals:

Protein 336 g / Carbs 785 g / Fat 39 g (+ 9 g omegas → 48 F)

≈ 4,830 kcal (base) → ≈ 4,910 kcal with omegas.

Rest day

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Meal 1

220 g keta → 44 P / 14 F

Jasmine ~140 g (raw) → 110 C

= 44 P / 110 C / 14 F

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Meal 2

220 g keta → 44 P / 14 F

Jasmine ~145 g (raw) → 115 C

= 44 P / 115 C / 14 F

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Meal 3

220 g keta → 44 P / 14 F

Jasmine ~140 g (raw) → 110 C

= 44 P / 110 C / 14 F

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Meal 4

220 g keta → 44 P / 14 F

Jasmine ~145 g (raw) → 115 C

= 44 P / 115 C / 14 F

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Meal 5

210 g fillet → 42 P / 14 F

Jasmine ~122 g (raw) → 96 C

= 42 P / 96 C / 14 F

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Pre-bed

Isopro ×2 (almond milk) → 54 P / 0 C / 0 F

Totals:

P 272 g / C 549 g / F 70 g ≈ 3,870 kcal

(With +9 g omegas → F 79 g, ≈ 3,951 kcal)

Cycle im at 4g total , test is circa 2.7 and eq 1.3 , feels really decent !

t3 25

GH 2 bottles ( 20-24iu total )

100 igf des pre , 100 igf lr3 post

12iu Lantus

250mcg Reta

And then healing peptides and mito stack unchanged

I was 269.7 this morning , it’s a HUGE amount of water , as I was zero GH , 700 test , Winnie , clen , primo . To now this , so I would say 15 pounds of water no joke , I would drop that in 2-3 weeks just from a drug adjust and went back to the exact cycle including clen .

I’m going to keep going until end of November and then 8 week diet I would say , I will lower to 3g total when I diet. And then be nicely set up for another push 🙂

I am actually excited to show my glute progress . My glutes were small before and after a couple years hammering them , they are now a real strength and changed so so much

If one is using a 30mg vial of Reta at 1-2 mg total per week.. does it lose potency at 30 days or is that bs ?

[mark ferrara]

Some all time strength stuff today for pull

Single arm prime pulldown x 5 x 4 x 7 x 4

Strive row x 6 x 5 x 5 x 5 x 4

Prime row x 6 x 6 x 6

Rear felt cable x 6 x 6

Bicep cable x 8 x 6 x 5 x 5

Cycle is now at 4G total , split 2:1 test eq , gh 2 x bottles before bed ( 20-24iu depending on variation ) , my t3 is at 25 . I won’t pull it out , t4 is zero.

Im settling into the cycle now and feel really very good , it’s taken a while to adjust to it. I am near 14 weeks post diet now from when I started to alter my energy balance . I’m going to do 6 more as things are and then instead of cruising and going again I will lower to 3g total and have a small diet phase , so that will be 20 weeks total on the up and then I think I need 6-8 week reset again, but I’m going to in that phase play with high dose slu , add gc1 and see what blood work says before / after gc1 addition in terms of thyroid and impacts.

Wow , this is epic! Would you say you prefer bolus dose of 20-24 iu before bed over 2 split doses ?

[mark ferrara]

Have you seen Dr Trevor bachmeyer saying Reta should be taken once a week not micro dosed?

Just interested in your thoughts

Interestingly he also said SLUP is totally useless taken orally.. curious to know what JP thinks on that. Dr Trevor has some decent content but definitely think him saying oral SLUP being totally uselss is completely horse crap…[/quote]

Dr Trevor sells peps, I have used oral SLU with clients and see HUGE success

Reta daily is best from what I have seen and heard from guys like Nick walker & sam Pearce

Il stick to what big boys say not guys who live in world of theory

It’s the same as when dr say to inject test once a week… all the sides come with it vs daily.

Jordan will fill you in on rest [/quote]
Totally agree, i don’t know where he came from and why his nonsense is all over the place now . Not even 190lb soaking wet

[mark ferrara]

Ye I commented and then I took it down as I realised I don’t give a shit lol

You’re a boss!!! That comment was fn Gold!!!!

[mark ferrara]

Have you seen Dr Trevor bachmeyer saying Reta should be taken once a week not micro dosed?

Just interested in your thoughts

Interestingly he also said SLUP is totally useless taken orally.. curious to know what JP thinks on that. Dr Trevor has some decent content but definitely think him saying oral SLUP being totally uselss is completely horse crap…

[mark ferrara]

Water levels stabilised , gave myself a nice few days of being able to walk smoothly , and then it’s back to business , as I have no urge to run mast for anything other than the short stints to control things like I have always done or it’s alongside high nandrolone to control things . So last night back to my test eq ans will plow on there . I will be at my 4g total cycle soon and then I’m sure at some point I will need to drop some pressure for a few days where I will do the same , lower the test hit the mast p and just give my body / mind a couple days where I can walk / function without the brutal water haha

Pep stack very much locked in now but only diff is 5mg / day ss31 , where I can get all the health benefits from that . The rest is

1mg mots

5mg ss31

500mcg 5 amino

100mg nad +

10mg meth blue

600mcg x 2 a day

I’m super happy with how that all feels

I’m doing klow at 10iu / day from the vial mixed with 3ml , that gives me 1660mcg ghkcu / day and then 333 bpc , fb , kpv

But then I’m adding some bpc/tb blend on top still at an additional 500 of each / day and then same for kpv

Reta is down at 250mcg / day now . That’s all I need it feels now

Gh still 24 iu a day , but I am toggling the timing and just assessing my digestion and fasted bg , which is starting to creep but that’s co incided with lowering Reta for me . It’s still sub 5 most days on wake , but I have noticed that if I take all 24iu before bed it will then be 5.1/5.2 . But if I split it around the workout , I’m seeing lower fasted bg . It would be interesting to see what of those two approaches causes me the highest igf levels. I have a feeling it’s the split as the doses are 4 hours apart ish , so then your probably going to get a larger AUC as there will be an upper limit as to what you can get in one single dose . ( sounds like it’s circa 18iu based on what have heard from Kurt havens )

I am SO happy with the progress

Out of curiousity why did you pull up back on the GHK?

[mark ferrara]

Can Gh and insulin be pinned in same syringe ? I’ve heard 50/50 on this one

[mark ferrara]

Push legs pull , told you 4 times now ? I think , no more answers from me to the exact same questions matey

Sorry for dumb ? lol but i can’t find your current log … did it get moved to another section? I was able to find it a few days ago