[Ryan]

Hi @ryanpetford

Sorry to hijack this thread, I’m interested to know if you will you be running the HMG and HCG only around the times leading up to and during your partner ovulating? Or will it be HMG and HCG twice weekly, literally until you conceive?

I imagine the latter could get quite expensive (but obviously worth the rewards). Are you able to let us know roughly what this protocol will cost you per month please? I don’t think we’re allowed to discuss sources here are we?

Thanks in advance

Hey Ben, yes il be running the whole time until we conceive, it can take 40 days for sperm to mature. Probably looking at 60 to 70pound a week depending in your source. I’m still struggling to find HMG so may have to order via the states online which means an import charge too… Its costly but something i have to except.

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[Ryan]

Hey Ryan

Will your split change now as you’re doing “Density” workouts? You used to do PPL right?

hey m8, yer still PPL with a density day. Only managing 4 sessions a week with the way im training at the min. It’s allowing me to recover and really push when i do train

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[Ryan]

rest day today and i need it. feeling a little fatigued so plenty of naps today. Still hoping to train tomorrow but will listen to my body, don’t want to be sick for bodypower thats for sure.

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[Ryan]

I would also supplement, coq10, Curcumin liposomal and vit E.

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hey buddy, i am currently starting a fertility cycle, whilst staying on cycle. You need HMG to help spermagenasis, you could use HCG also, i will this time as my balls have shrunk to peas lol. My dosage will be 75iu HMG and 2500iu HCG mon and Thurs, you could do a further 75iu of hmg on sat but it’s costly. I will run this until i conceive but will probably go for tests aswell. Maybe worth holding out to make sure the mrs is okay first, otherwise your pumping stuff in for no reason (parden the pung).

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hey buddy, less carbs help me with water retention, each gram of carb takes water with it to the muscle. I swell up like professor clump if i eat too many as im not that tolerant to them. However, if your looking to grow during this cycle you would want a surplus of cals. Perhaps you could use fat more for this surplus. Also make sure your water content is sufficient, too little and you will hold water. i also use VitC, 1000 to 2000mg a day.

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I personally don’t get too fluffy in the offseason, probably around 5 to 6kg from stage weight (not inc water). I like to keep my insulin response nice and sensitive and keep my carbs controlled all year. I know James has packed on a serious amount of muscle this year using a much cleaner approach. It definitely depends on the individual, i.e are you a endo, mes, Ectomorph, Hard gainer, easy gainer etc. When you look at the 90s guys like Dorian, Lee Priest, Jay, they would push weight and get huge, it really depends on the approach that works for you so it could be a case of trial and error. A surplus is a surplus, 500 over or 2000 over. There’s an argument for both approaches, either way they both require discipline,. either to control your eating or to push until your uncomfortable consistently for long periods of time.

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push day today, all i could manage after density day yesterday. We focused on shoulders today, so one push is chest focused and the other shoulders. I have a rest day tomorrow then legs weds. enjoy your bank holiday all.

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Excited to follow along. Have noticed that my body feels and responds better to the higher fats and lower carb as well. Need more time to really dial it in however.

Thanks!

hey buddy, good man, yes definitely worth trialling for a while, get some blood work done and see how your responding.

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I’d imagine whey powders are exposed to all sorts in the extraction process when being made so doubt it would harm the nutrients. Still if you can avoid like suggested above then you will be certain it’s okay.

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Trialled out the density day with the main focus on RDLs today. loved it, definitely feel like this is going to be a great addition to my training split.
session below:
Ex1: seated leg curl
Ex2: RDLs *one heavy set*
Ex3: pulldown movement
Ex4: chest supported row
Ex5: pendulum squat
Ex6: single leg press
2 working sets on all apart from RDLs.

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never had an issue, may make you look a little tighter as Its an anti oes

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Rest day today, hopefully be rested enough to trial a density day tomorrow, will go on how i feel as i want to make sure im fully rested between sessions. Have a great weekend everyone

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hey, i would avoid cardio on leg days to allow sufficient recovery, on other days light cardio is fine, obviously if your feeling extremely fatigued on occasion then avoid it, unless your in contest prep and it needs to be done.

Ryan, what’s your opinion on adding 15-20 mins of stairmaster to your leg days? overkill or fine?[/quote]
Ryan, what’s your opinion on adding 15-20 mins of stairmaster to your leg days? overkill or fine?[/quote]
IMO i wouldn’t do it buddy, sending the wrong signals to the legs, once we break the tissue down via the weights we want to start the recovery process asap

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nice Clare, coming in quickly now.

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