[Hilly]

Hello bud. I like it n feel for those at a beginner to inter level it’s a fantastic way to go to grow and learn how to execute work sets properly

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I would just avoid deca bud based on this

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[Hilly]

Thanks for the response! Just a follow up question; So it doesn’t increase testosterone, thus being at level higher than what you normally would be on with hrt?

I’ve never read anything to suggest it would increase test

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[Hilly]

Depends on the cycle.

I feel tapering down all drugs equally over 2-4 weeks is best.

I feel stopping 19 nor before test is a good move to

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[Hilly]

Your thinking correct n not correct

What you are saying are approaches that are used to maximise a growing phase or cutting phase without becoming unhealthy.

However it’s being in a surplus overall that is required to build muscle n deficit to loose fat

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[Hilly]

Well it looks like your body had recovered n is producing test.

The issue is you have low T n if this has been ongoing for a while now with no improvement then this may just be all your body is going to produce n it’s Trt as the next step.

Speaking to your doctor would be wise

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[Hilly]

Pre meal

60 mins post meal

90 mins post meal

120 mins post meal

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As above.

Cialis is not related to your hormones so it’s fine.

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Blasting all year will obviously give the most gains.

Will also give you the most health problems n a shorter life span.

People cruise for health.

People come off for fertility

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[Hilly]

A monitor is the only way be sure n then discuss.

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Jordan uses The Corinne Calculator to track and adjust his foods in sync with his macros.
i literally just use pen and paper and mental maths…im actually not joking

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We all need one of these calculators ????????

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@hilly thank you for that detailed response I’m sure this will help many others.
Agree on having clearance with no PCT drugs I did this last year too unfortunately this year will only be about 6 weeks due to other time scales but it will still be a nice break and the way you respond after is pretty good ????

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I love chatting this stuff.

As no one is correct. There is no right way just what we all experiment with.

We must chat n debate to find out what others have done.

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You have been on a long time. I feel taking time off n doing a pct would do you good.
However as above it’s only worth going if you are going to do it properly n this means staying off for 12 weeks

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Hi Hilly,
Would you say there is a optimal length of time to stay off once recovered from PCT before next cycle?
I know this is all dependent on goals etc but would it be pointless to run PCT (12-14 weeks) then jump straight back on the next week?

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There are so many ways of looking at it.

In a perfect world you would wait till blood work shows you are recovered.

Then you know your body can recover. Arguably then going back on is fine.

Now one could theoretically say you should stay natural for a bit n let body be normal.

What we don’t know is if going straight back on is a bad thing. Scientifically no one has researched this I imagine.

However if maximising your physique is your goal staying natty is not helping this at all.

In my honest opinion coming off n PCT is only there to make sure you can remain fertile.

As in terms of getting health markers normal this can be done on Trt.

Now I do believe having some time off does help the body responds better when going back on. This could be just an 8-10 week break once a year. Not focusing on recovery just a dam break.

For myself I’m Pct as looking to have a baby fingers crossed.

After that I will B n C and once a year clean out for 8-10 weeks totally but probs not even run pct as the meds n YoYo of the body is not healthy either.

Very hard to answer n say what is best. I can only explain my thoughts based on situations n angles so to speak.

My honest total answer is on every fertility is not a concern I’m not arsed abt being able to recover. Worse case the doctor will prescribe me gear lol if for some mad reason I couldn’t get myself.

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You have been on a long time. I feel taking time off n doing a pct would do you good.

However as above it’s only worth going if you are going to do it properly n this means staying off for 12 weeks

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I would run the cycle for 12 weeks.

I would do 250mg divided into 2 doses for 6 weeks then 400mg divided into 2 doses last 6 weeks.

Proviron is IMO a useful addition if funds allow but definitely not a must at all.

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