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325 morning shots ????????
Shit mate that front lat spread is freaky
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So tren has a very strong effect on the androgen receptor which codes for genes that promote muscle growth. Coupled with the ability to train harder and lift heavier, muscle growth is going to be superior on Tren.
Say for example your maintenance calories is 3000 and you’re consuming 2500. You will be in a 500 calorie deficit and can expect to lose a certain amount of body fat, whilst hopefully maintaining muscle mass.
Now imagine you’re consuming 2500 calories but using trenbolone also. You’re still in a 500 calorie deficit, but more of the nutrients you are eating are being used to build protein in the muscle. This means that there is even less energy available for replenishing fat stores. The end net result equalling greater levels of muscle retention/growth and superior amount of fat loss.
In terms of WEIGHT, there may be little to no difference or you may remain heavier on Tren due to higher levels of musculature. Unless you’re needing to make a weight class we shouldn’t be caring about weight. Body composition is the goal. We want to maximise muscle mass and minimise body fat (to varying levels of extremes depending on goals or physique preference).
Exactly this IMO and exactly how I see tren
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If your BF is over 20% then your unhealthy and in a bad place to improve your physique and your first goal should be dropping Bf.
Now there is no reason why you cant do this as part of your first cycle and fact is you will likely get a recomp effect from doing so being your first cycle etc.
So I would look to run say 300mg Test e per week split into 2 injects.
I would focus on dropping bodyfat for the first 8 weeks, then increase the dose to 450-500mg and look to increase food around training on training days only and you should put more emphasis on growing but still drop some bodyfat off IMO.
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This last year I ran two test + tren cycles (currently on 2nd) and for the first time, experienced depression sides on both.
In the past I would typically only be effected psychological / mentally with heightened irritability and a shorter fuse.
The depression I experience comes in the form of intense bouts maybe once a day, coupled with a constant feeling of being down/low (not my bubbly self).
During the first run, I believed it was life circumstance until I felt great coming down to TRT and then feeling exactly the same once going back on….
9 weeks into the 2nd run and it’s mission abort. I thought it would pass like the irritability but it just won’t….
going to switch the tren to NPP but I’m wondering with Npp being a 19-nor, will it have the same effect?I’ll soon find out and if so, test only it is.
Depression/anxiety can be common with some people from tren/NPP for sure, we always have to remember drugs effect us all differently. I have a couple of clients that cant use either due to these issues.
I would not be using tren going forward and if NPP makes you feel the same then avoid this to.
Out of interest was it tren E or ace. I know some people notice more sides from shooting higher less frequent doses with tren E but lesser sides with more frequent dose of tren A due to more stable blood levels.
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I must say though this time of year my skin does tend to peel a little on my hands. even more so when I used to work in construction in the cold/dry areas all of the time.
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I don’t know if anyone experienced this but my skin is peeling off my fingertips all of a sudden. First I thought maybe some allergic reaction but it holds on now for almost 2 weeks. Only thing I changed these weeks is adding 25 mcg of t3. Does anyone have experience with this or may know a solution?
If it doesn’t clear in within a week or 2 then I would go to the doctors as it could be several things.
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Trained chest / hams / calves
Seated cable fly – x 14/11, x 13 – up in Reps
Decline cable – x 8, x 13/11 – up reps
Pec dec RP – x 15/f/f – up repsSeated ham – x 8, x 11, x 4’s – up in weight
Glute bridge – x 9/8, x 13 – down in reps
Seated leg press – different machine – stack x 17/14 – feels better than leg press but not heavy enough
1 leg lay curls – x 13, x 13 – up in RepsCalves
Strength decent still
No motivation though to be honest. This low test crack sucks ass lol
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what are your kcals per day? and what are your macros?
t3 in one person is not relevant or comparable to another…hilly for example has a lower natural thyroid output, so using 25 maybe just put him into range…another individual could have the same reading without any exogenous use.
the basics here is energy balanceTo add to this. My T3 has been low for a long time, However I have been off for the past 8 weeks and got my T3 tested and its now higher than it was when on 25mcg t3 lol.
So you may be actually slowing your own metabolism down by taking low dose T3.
which is also why when you have Insta message me I explained not to taper down to 12.5 josh
As we have discussed all this on insta because he said he didn’t want to many peoples opinions but seems he did lololol
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I’m not tapering down to 12.5mg hilly. I’m coming off[/quote]
I didn’t say you were. I said you were going to n I told you not to bother.As we have had lengthy discussion abt this here
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I would only use HMG. I’ve used this to bring my sperm
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MemberNovember 19, 2019 at 5:14 pm in reply to: is 12 weeks or 16 weeks better for first cycleYou will know when you get blood work done n everything is A OK in an ideal world
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MemberNovember 19, 2019 at 11:06 am in reply to: is 12 weeks or 16 weeks better for first cycleIf you get to 12 weeks and you feel good and are still making gains then keep going.
if your not and have stalled etc then PCT
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PCT has worked all looks good. Just got to wait to see if test levels go higher.
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For sure the bone structure is an very important fact concerning a tiny waist from the front. If your hips are wide they are wide, only thing you can do is avoid any growth for your side abdominals, so no side crunches or whatever.
Concerning the waist for the side its mostly stomach control which is a big factor.
So always try to train your transversus abdominis, do planks, do vaccums, that keeps you tight. Always train with a stabilised core and keep it stable also during day.
Also learn to breath only through chest and not through belly you will need that on stage.But also very important is your gut health, if you handle with bloatings and bad digestions you should take care of that. There are certain peds which fuck up your stomach, often methandienon or other orals, also the usage of slin cause the amount of food you have to eat.
Conclusion concerning peds and tiny waist, the dont affect it directly but indirect they can have a big influence so control all parameters to get the best out of your work!
Sorry for the long post, but i think thats a real important thing in modern bodybuildingvery good post here.
I would add personally I feel striving to control blood sugar day to day year round will help reduce the chances of visceral fat deposits building up. The lower we can keep insulin production in general the better I feel.
Avoiding’s trans fats is also IMo a must.
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what are your kcals per day? and what are your macros?
t3 in one person is not relevant or comparable to another…hilly for example has a lower natural thyroid output, so using 25 maybe just put him into range…another individual could have the same reading without any exogenous use.
the basics here is energy balance
To add to this. My T3 has been low for a long time, However I have been off for the past 8 weeks and got my T3 tested and its now higher than it was when on 25mcg t3 lol.
So you may be actually slowing your own metabolism down by taking low dose T3.
which is also why when you have Insta message me I explained not to taper down to 12.5 josh
As we have discussed all this on insta because he said he didn’t want to many peoples opinions but seems he did lololol
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Hi guys. Coach has allowed me 1 cheat meal at the end of every week, there is no calorie guidance involved just a sensible cheat meal no buffets or binges. Any idea what i could have to keep it sensible and not fuck me up? I like literally any food. Im cutting to if that means anything. Thanks
So firstly choose the right mindset.
You have a goal – to drop bodyfat, hopefully gain muscle and look awesome. So based on this you don’t want to do anything that will not aid in achieving this goal.
if you discuss with your coach im sure he will have some form of best practice/best approach for you. Some clients I find psychologically just need a break from thinking about it – so he may say just pick your fave restaurant and have 2 courses or let your bird pick etc. Some need it from a physiological stand point and he may be of the opinion that a higher kcal/carb meal etc will refill glycogen and boost letpin levels – so then he may give you rough totals to git.
For me I specify the following to clients.
make sure the food is of good quality – something like mcdonalds that doesn’t go mouldy for over a year means its not going to be utilised like the body like a decent quality burger and fries from a nice restaurant or home made. This is just my opinion.
make it ideally post or post post workout so its being utilised during a period its need most and ideally after one of your bigger sessions. This way the extra nutrients are likely to be absorbed/utilised better.
Make sure your eating stuff you know wont upset digestion etc.
If you havnt seen your mates for a while or dojne much with your partner or family due to being on a CUT then try to make sure its involved in a social setting as this can help de stress/relax ready for another hard push in the gym etc.
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