[Hilly]

Wednesday. -Rest day

5 meals in
12k steps done

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[Hilly]

Tuesday – leg training day

meals 5
steps 12k

Legs was a good session overall especially as sleep had been really poor.

Only work sets listed – pyramid up scheme to failure on last set

Glute focused hypes – 3 x 8
Lay ham curls – 3 x 8
1 leg extensions – 3 x 8
hack. -3 x 6-8
1 leg leg press – x 10, x 8, x 7F

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Also never heard

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[Hilly]

Your looking for data that does not exist that is why, there is such an individual variance in response the only way you are going to figure this out is by working it out for yourself.

I would get your blood work back first. Depending how high it is start with 6.25mg 1-3 times per week and then adjust based on what further blood work says so you can learn Aromasin response to E2 levels for yourself.

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The only time imo you leave a movement behind is when you have been hammering something for a long time. Perfected it , got very strong at it but that body part still lags / is behind.

That for me would indicate potentially there are better options

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Loads of threads on this bud with huge discussion around different approaches

Refeed as often as needed. Totally person n situation depending

Diet break – extreme cases or when planned in longer preps

Signs

Severe drops in performance
Scale just won’t move or I’d even increasing when you pull food
Terrible sleep consistently
Feeling cold all the time

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Very open ended question as my experience may have no relation to yours but in general.

Ghk is very good for hair / skin etc
If 350mg test worked well just repeat this

Growth hormone at 3iu is imo a very good addition based on your post.

Bpc n tb for injuries or periods were your feeling very beat up

Mots C for insulin sensitivity and day to day energy and focus is a game changer Ime

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That’s the problem! You generally have to order in high quantities for delivery

Only if you’re trying to get the cheapest price or ordering from a bigger supplier in general.

Chinese if tested n legit is as good as pharma

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I do like this approach and use it with clients.

I would train 4 days per week or 2 on 1 off.

Another good option would be

Push / pull / off / arms / legs/ off repeat.

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You can’t defo say it’s fake but it would defo look that way to me.

Unless you normally see a spike with other brand of GH

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Sunday – rest day

5 meals in
12k steps

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Saturday – training day

5 meals in.

Trained arms / delts

High curl to head SS rope PD – 4 x 12-15
EZ cable curl SS EZ cable PD – 4 x 8-10
Preacher machine – 4 x 8
Tricep extension machine – 4 x 8

All exercises hit failure on last 2 sets. Last set added partials

Seated DB laterals – 5 x 10-15. Last 2 to failure. Last set a double stop set

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Hello again, thank you for the replies

Yeah, I am on 300mg Test C and 600mg Mast E

I am just watching as Haematocrit has slowly risen, but it is not at a concerning point yet

At time of blood draw it was 300mg Test C and 500mg Mast E with daily injections

Here are the blood markers from 13.08.26

Just got more bloods pulled today

Full Blood Count

Haemoglobin — 172.0 g/L — Ref: 130.0–180.0
Haematocrit — 52.800% — Ref: 40.000–54.000
Mean Cell Haemoglobin (MCH) — 34.7 pg — Ref: 27.0–32.0 — High
Mean Cell Haemoglobin Concentration (MCHC) — 326.0 g/L — Ref: 320.0–360.0
Mean Cell Volume (MCV) — 106.5 fL — Ref: 76.0–100.0 — High
Red Blood Cell Count — 4.96 ×10¹²/L — Ref: 4.50–6.50
Basophil Count — 0.05 ×10⁹/L — Ref: 0.01–0.10
Eosinophil Count — 0.05 ×10⁹/L — Ref: 0.04–0.40
Lymphocyte Count — 1.35 ×10⁹/L — Ref: 1.00–3.50
Monocyte Count — 0.47 ×10⁹/L — Ref: 0.20–0.80
Neutrophil Count — 3.87 ×10⁹/L — Ref: 2.00–7.50
White Blood Cell Count — 5.79 ×10⁹/L — Ref: 4.00–10.00
Platelet Count — 189 ×10⁹/L — Ref: 150–450

Iron Status

Iron — 27.0 µmol/L — Ref: 5.8–34.5
Ferritin — 205.65 µg/L — Ref: 19.999–300
Total Iron Binding Capacity (TIBC) — 54.6 µmol/L — Ref: 44.8–80.6
Transferrin — 2.46 g/L — Ref: 2.00–3.80
Transferrin Saturation — 49.5% — Ref: 20.0–50.0

Heart Health / Lipids

Total Cholesterol — 2.96 mmol/L — Ref high: 5.00
LDL Cholesterol — 1.69 mmol/L — Ref high: 3.00
HDL Cholesterol — 0.98 mmol/L — Ref: ≥1.55 — Low
Total Cholesterol / HDL Cholesterol Ratio — 3.02 — Ref high: 5.00
Triglycerides — 0.63 mmol/L — Ref high: 2.30

Glucose / Diabetes

Glucose — 1.32 mmol/L — Ref: 4.00–7.00 — Low
HbA1c — 26.01 mmol/mol — Ref high: 42.00
Insulin — 7.7 pmol/L — Ref: 17.8–173.0 — Low

Kidney / Electrolytes

Chloride — 96.7 mmol/L — Ref: 95.0–108.0
Phosphate — 0.859 mmol/L — Ref: 0.800–1.500
Potassium — 3.88 mmol/L — Ref: 3.50–5.30
Sodium — 138.6 mmol/L — Ref: 133.0–146.0
Urea — 9.55 mmol/L — Ref: 2.50–7.80 — High

Liver Health

Alanine Aminotransferase (ALT) — 49.0 U/L — Ref high: 55.0
Alkaline Phosphatase (ALP) — 56 U/L — Ref: 30–120
Aspartate Aminotransferase (AST) — 71.0 U/L — Ref high: 40.0 — High
Gamma-Glutamyltransferase (GGT) — 30.3 U/L — Ref: 10.0–71.0
Total Bilirubin — 30.00 µmol/L — Ref high: 21.00 — High
Albumin — 47.2 g/L — Ref: 35.0–50.0

Nutritional / Bone Health

Vitamin D — 206 nmol/L — Ref: 50–375

Inflammation

C-Reactive Protein (CRP) — <0.30 mg/L — Ref high: 5.00

Pituitary / Adrenal

Cortisol — 485 nmol/L — Ref: 138–690
Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) — <0.30 IU/L — Ref: 1.50–12.40 — Low
Luteinising Hormone (LH) — <0.3 IU/L — Ref: 1.7–8.6 — Low
Prolactin — 208 mIU/L — Ref: 86–324
DHEA-S — 5.0 µmol/L — Ref: 4.3–12.2

Thyroid

Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) — 2.390 mIU/L — Ref: 0.350–5.500
Free Thyroxine (FT4) — 14.30 pmol/L — Ref: 11.90–21.60
Free Tri-iodothyronine (FT3) — 3.13 pmol/L — Ref: 3.10–6.80
Anti-Thyroglobulin Antibody (Anti-Tg) — 19.90 IU/mL — Ref high: 115.00
Anti-Thyroid Peroxidase Antibody (Anti-TPO) — <8.00 kU/L — Ref high: 20.00

Hormonal Health

Testosterone — 82.100 nmol/L — Ref: 8.640–29.000 — High
Oestradiol — 163.0 pmol/L — Ref: 41.4–159.0 — High
Progesterone — 0.86 nmol/L — Ref high: 0.47 — High
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) — 16.70 nmol/L — Ref: 18.30–54.10 — Low
Free Androgen Index — 491.62% — Ref: 35.00–92.60 — High
Free Testosterone — 2.727 nmol/L — Ref: 0.175–0.687 — High

Couple of issues here but your blood count is not one of them IMO.

t3 is very poor and right at the bottom of range – needs addressing
free t3 the same
Bilirubin could be an issue – I would retest in 6-8 weeks
Glucose and insulin very low indeed.

HDl – increase omega intake as well as tBJP love heart and heart care

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personally i would do it like this and adjust as i went using my knowledge and experience.

body weight in lb x 12 –
protein at 1.25g per lb of BW
fats at around 40-50g
rest from carbs

I would have them training 4 days a week following an U/L split
cardio on wake
steps at 10-12k

I would then start using high days to make sure they kept pushing performance as this is key to them regaining tissue they previously had.

depending on how this went over the initial 6-10 weeks I may then start pulling them down to a lean base before reversing into a prolonged growth phase.

obviously this is as basic as it gets knowing nothing at all about your client 🙂

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Thanks everyone. I was already using 1mg MOTSC and 400mcg SLU; I’m going to take a short break from them and then resume. I’m pinning Reta eod. Do you think eod is sufficient to avoid slowing down gastric emptying, or should I switch to daily injections?

IME its more about total dose than frequency although that can help a little.

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