[Hilly]

Have you got high E2 sides ? Any issues at all ?

If not is leave all as is.

How are you jabbing the 280 test ? Daily ? If not move to daily

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If you feel terrible and it’s effecting your day defo split it

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[Hilly]

If it’s just a general 1 x refeed day I keep all as is.

If we are in prep and looking to rest / refresh over 2-3 days I will pull Clen

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Wednesday- rest day

Steps – 12k

Meals in – 5

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Tuesday –

5 meals in

Steps 12k

training day Arms / legs – Tendons sore

Preacher machine – x 10, x10, x10, x 9F, x 6f
1 arm preacher – x 12f, x 10f
1 arm tricep PD – x 12, x12, x 11f, x 6f, x 13f
Db hammer curls – x 15f, x 8f

Seated ham curls – x8, x 12f, x6f
Extensions- x 11f, x 9f
Squat Machine – x6, x6, x 11f

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[Hilly]

Monday – no idea why these have not loaded up.

Steps – 15k

6 meals in

Trained delts / chest / back. Decent session but I defo felt the ongoing tendinitis issue

Standing lateral machine – x 13f, x 9f, x 6f
Shoulder press son- 3 x 10. Nothing to true failure

Seated chest press – x 8, x 8, x 12f, x 7f with a drop set
Pec Dec – 4 x 12 – last one true failure

Overhand pull down – x8, x8, x 9F, x6f
Chest supported row – x 6, x 10f, x7f
V grip cable row – x 13f with a drop set.

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[Hilly]

I fully agree with Kerry and Marc. This meal plan is far from ideal and is going to leave you pretty dam hungry imo which may well be causing the issues.

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I also agree.

I see no issues at all with pwo cardio

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Also what does your food actually look like on both days, can you write it out with meal timings

My current meal plan with timings.

I will try and split it up in 5 meals on rest day moving forward.

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Can’t see it.

Can you type it out please

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[Hilly]

Tren can give a false read yes but you may still be high E2 depending on cycle n body response.

Have you got any high E2 sides. If not I would not worry or adjust.

I can’t see a t4 read ?

What liver support are you taking. ?

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There isnt really a right and wrong answer here to be honest.

yes keeping a low dose HCG in may well keep testicular size and function better which technically should help maintain some fertility and make it easier to bring back your overall HPTA axis and fertility when you come to actually trying.

However there is no guarantee of this and weekly HCG use will cause E2 to run high as well as runs a risk of becoming de sensitised to HCG and thus the you come to actually need it for HPTA restoration/fertility restoration you may need more or even risk it being less effective.

As we know in almost every one we can restore fertility comfortably now even when on a TRT dose most tend to thus not run HCG year round but its impossible for us to say its not a good move as the science shows it can be and TRT clinics do advise it at times.

As an individual you do your research and then take the path you feel makes the most sense.

having one this with many many people in that have been on AAS for prolonged periods without the use of HCG I can comfortably say based on. My own experience it is not needed but I cant say its not a wise move technically as the science/info is there to show it may well make sense.

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[Hilly]

Some fantastic information and help above.

if the issue is not hunger but what seems to be Post meal hunger spikes then potentially your meals are not well balanced enough to control the insulin release from your meals post diet and thus you are getting a higher insulin spike and this is causing a sharp rise in hunger/cravings.

Also it may be wise post meals to go for a walk or something as a distraction from the hunger and to give time for the meal to sit properly and satisfy you.

what does your meal plan look like

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I cant speak from any experience personally or with clients but I do feel the GHK is your main go to here and then the KPV would be a good second addition. I honestly dont know how much the glutathione would add to these 2

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[Hilly]

All looks fine to me if the foods digest well for you, and you feel your performance, sleep and recovery is good. The only thing I would change is having a cyclic dextrin based carb intra workout, as oppose to maltodextrin as it digests much better. tbJP Performance fuel or Sustain are good options.

Fully agree

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1 – if this keeps E2 in a decent spot then this is fine, if you need more E2 control then choose more primo and less masteron.

2 – I think this looks fine for the goal TBH.

3 – t3 and t4 will help keep thyroid levels in the most optimal spot so there is sense to it, is it needed arguably not but none of this is needed truly and we are all choosing to use to enhance things so if wanting to enhance fat loss in the sense of keeping it optimal and stoping the body naturally down regulating then it is a wise move.

4 – it just means you need to either focus on PCA and restoring levels ASAP or that you may well want to include HMG in the cycle to maintain testicular function and potentially bring in HCG post wedding to

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