Hilly
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Fully agree here , I would use happily
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If you test I and it comes back good then it’s good
Cheers pal. I’ll be honest just seemed skeptical was no one else seems to do it and it was around 700iu for £350. [/quote]
I would be skeptical to but there is a chance it may be sound asInstagram name - Hillydoc. Www.physique-enhancement.co.uk | tb-jp.com/collections/clothing - The most anabolic clothing ever! |
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If you test I and it comes back good then it’s good
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Put blood results in here bud when they land.
Until then we’re just blind guessing and can’t accurately help
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I’m with J here.
I would have tb500 in at 1mg daily from the get go and bpc at 500-1mg daily
These for me are the main and most important ones
Then the GHK n KPV great additions.
A Klow blend would be perfect here from pro forma
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We’re is your body composition/ fat levels currently?
Any hit cardio ? If not add 3 sessions a week.
Get leaner
Keep your good fat intake overall higher than you have been.I would also drop down to a cruise and focus on making these numbers all in range.
Then Move back to cycle steadily and check numbers every 8 weeks.
I’ve just done exactly this myself
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Going for stress test with echo in a couple weeks to check for actual blockages and soft plaque. Does anyone have experience with gear after a positive calcium score? Assuming no blockages or soft plaque, my plan is to stay around 200-250mg test per week year round. I wanna know if there’s any room for shorter growth phases with slight dose escalation to try and still be able to progress. Any thoughts of competing are gone now sadly, but I still wanna improve. I was thinking start with a very small increase then check labs. If all is ideal then continue until I see what a realistic ceiling is without any derangement in labs, bp, insulin sensitivity, etc. I have to minimize risk as much as possible but I don’t wanna just assume it’s trt only or nothing if I don’t have to.
It’s exactly as you said , making very small changes and tracking blood work and biometrics.
Picking those drugs we know cause the least toxicity – mast n primo.
Looking to positives to keep all areas of the body functioning as high as you can so you can really get the most out of what your body can do with the least AAs. Leveraging peptides plus smart nutrition and training makes all the sense here
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Also fully agree with Allison
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SLU – 300mcg Pre both training sessions
5 amino – 500-1000mcg on wake daily
Mots C – 1mg 5-7 times a week on wake
SS31 – same AS mots CReta – my favoured approach is 250mcg 4-5 times a week as I get no hunger suppression from this. If this is something you want look to bigger doses less often. Maybe 500-750mcg twice a week.
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Tuesday – rest day
5 meals in , just 1 carb meal as meal 5
16k steps
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I’d potentially look to just remove the EQ and reassess bloodwork in 6 weeks or so and see if E2 comes back up to a better range.
I would also recommend this to be honest with E2 been crashed badly. Pull the EQ out and stick with 500mg test split daily to allow for the best hormonal profile possible and then recheck bloods in 6 weeks. It will take a while for E2 to come back up as the Eq will linger
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Thanks hilly, just a few follow questions if that’s ok mate, just so I can get all my ducks in a row.
1) I was a fat kid and likely had pubescent gyno but that has been long gone. Therefore I’m keen to avoid a flare up. I’ve low E2 aromatisation as you say, and I’m about 15-18% BF which is probably higher than ideal. To avoid anything developing prior to my 5/6 week blood tests would it make sense to run Nolva ED at 10mg for first 5 weeks?
2) at that point, If E2 is looking not ideal, i have access to primo – what mg could I bring that in at to help recomp? Rather than an ai?
3) There’s no risk without reward but what are the chances of returning to similar natural Test levels after the above PCT? (24.6)
4) recent test show high prolactin at 501mlu/l (range 86-324)! I don’t feel overly stressed but how much of a concern is that in relation to gyno development? Would P5P get that into a better spot?
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1 – if your prone to gyno then having the low dose Nolva in daily would be a wise move yes – if your really worried you could take just 1 x 0.5mg adex a week until you asses bloods. Again its very much your choice and how cautious you want to be.
2 – 100mg primo may well do the job, it depends how high E2 goes and how your response to the primo is which again we dont know until you run it and then recheck with bloods.
3 – pretty solid chance of coming back to normal bud in reality, I dont personally no any one that could not return to normal post a low dose cycle like this. Some just take longer than others.
4 – I would get the P5P in at 200mg daily yes
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MemberMarch 2, 2026 at 8:53 pm in reply to: Test/Mast 210/210 – conservative approach, am I leaving gains on the table?Firstly you hired the coach so trust in his judgement – he sounds like he’s doing everything right and the results show that what you’re doing is working extremely well.
More is not always better and being patient in this game is key, if and when progress slows down then it would make sense to slightly titrate doses up but to me everything you doing here makes oats of sense.
the only thing im not sure about is HCG intra and post makes no sense to me
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Monday – steps 14k and trained.
session was shitty as had to work around ongoing tendon issue but got it done. The good news is I am pretty sure I have figured out the issue now which is real badly inflammed ulna collateral ligament and some forearm stress. I spent an hour last night palpating my entire arm to find out were the issue was and its no wear that the physio thought lol. Tricep is also pretty tender at the insertion.
so I am doing some self massage/rehab work on that and Kamara has given we some rehab exercises to do.
I am then going to see physio Thursdaytraining
1 arm cable laterals – 5 x 10-12 reps – nothing to failure
EZ cabe front raises – 3 x 10-12
standing Db laterals – 2 x 15Cable pull over – 3 x 8-12
1 arm HS row – 3 x 10-12
chest supported row – 3 x 12-15chest press – 5 x 12-15
nothing to failure and nothing heavy at all.
Blood work back last week after 8 weeks on Reta and Mots C
HBA1C was mad good so the reta as expected does what its supposed to, However no noticeable improvement in cholesterol markers or kidney markers or anything else.
Im now easing into a cycle after this 13 week cruise – nothing exciting as I finish this diet phase out and then move to a slow growth phase.
Test remains at 260mg
primo in at 200mg as E2 was high at 280
masteron in at 400mgtotal load – 860mg .
GH – been pulled for this last 2 weeks to assess how much water its holding now im pretty lean.Reta will stay in during this following growth phase – 250mcg x 4 per week
Mots C will stay in at 1mg per day 6 days a week.Training will stay at 4 days a week
steps will stay at 12-14kthe goal post trip for my 40th birthday will be to see how lean I can stay while growing with these peptides in. I have been doing alot of work on food choices and how I can get food in well around having Arilena/work and all else and im confident ive got an approach that will work even tho its not the normal thats for sure.
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Hi Peter.
Which Pep have you found to be most effective through your own research?
Currently
Mots c I am most impressed with personally. Energy and focus increases are amazing for me.
Reta has put my hba1c in a crazy good spot so that Is impressive
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