[Hilly]

Proforma is defo best agreed.

It may help -in some ways such as maintaining better insulin sensitivity or helping you adhere to diet if you struggle.

It may cause issues with digestion of it slows gastric transit to much.

I’m currently just starting a trial growth phase with it in dosing just 250mcg 3 x a week

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[Hilly]

Proforma is defo best agreed.

It may help -in some ways such as maintaining better insulin sensitivity or helping you adhere to diet if you struggle.

It may cause issues with digestion of it slows gastric transit to much.

I’m currently just starting a trial growth phase with it in dosing just 250mcg 3 x a week

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[Hilly]

How close to blood draw did you inject 150mg testosterone

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[Hilly]

I would reduce test to 250mg per week split into daily doses
I would add 100mg primo split daily

Retest in 5-6 weeks making sure you don’t inject the day prior to getting blood drawn

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[Hilly]

I do all my Trt shots subQ n have done a couple of years now. 0 issues from pinning 10iu daily for 8-16 week periods.

Many of my clients do this.

I then switch to IM for cycles

Ok thanks for reply

So if I was looking at doing Trt long term, is subq unsustainable, should I just do IM[/quote]
No subQ is sustainable

I just do larger volumes obviously on cycle and that is no good subQ

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[Hilly]

Cheers Hillydoc.

Yeah just got blood recently done, posted on another question on here..

Red Blood Cells

🟢 Haemoglobin: 155 g/L (Range: 130–180)

🟢 Haematocrit: 0.459 L/L (Range: 0.40–0.52)

🟢 Red Cell Count: 4.70 ×10¹²/L (Range: 4.4–6.5)

🟢 MCV: 97.7 fL (Range: 80–100)

🔴 MCH: 32.9 pg (Range: 27–32)

🟢 MCHC: 337 g/L (Range: 320–360)

🟢 RDW: 12.7% (Range: 11.5–15)

White Blood Cells

🟢 White Cell Count: 3.4 ×10⁹/L (Range: 3–11)

🔴 Neutrophils: 1.3 ×10⁹/L (Range: 2–7.5)

🟢 Lymphocytes: 1.76 ×10⁹/L (Range: 1.5–4.5)

🟢 Monocytes: 0.28 ×10⁹/L (Range: 0.2–0.8)

🟢 Eosinophils: 0.11 ×10⁹/L (Range: 0–0.4)

🟢 Basophils: 0.000 ×10⁹/L (Range: 0–0.1)

Clotting Status

🟢 Platelet Count: 187 ×10⁹/L (Range: 150–450)

🟢 MPV: 10.1 fL (Range: 7–13)

Kidney Health

🟢 Creatinine: 93 µmol/L (Range: 60–120)

🟢 eGFR: 88 mL/min/1.73m² (Range: ≥60)

Liver Health

🟢 Bilirubin: 8 µmol/L (Range: <22)

🟢 ALP: 72 U/L (Range: 30–130)

🟢 ALT: 37 U/L (Range: <45)

🟢 GGT: 11 U/L (Range: <55)

Proteins

🟢 Total Protein: 70 g/L (Range: 60–80)

🟢 Albumin: 44 g/L (Range: 35–50)

🟢 Globulin: 27 g/L (Range: 19–35)

🟢 SHBG: 47.5 nmol/L (Range: 18.3–54.1)

Diabetes

🟢 HbA1c: 27 mmol/mol (Range: <42)

Cholesterol Status

🟢 Total Cholesterol: 4.37 mmol/L (Range: <5)

🟢 LDL Cholesterol: 2.72 mmol/L (Range: <3)

🟢 Non-HDL Cholesterol: 3.27 mmol/L (Range: <4)

🟢 HDL Cholesterol: 1.10 mmol/L (Range: >1)

🟢 Total Cholesterol:HDL Ratio: 3.97 (Range: <6)

🟢 Triglycerides: 1.22 mmol/L (Range: <2.3)

Iron Status

🔴 Ferritin: 522 µg/L (Range: 30–518)

Thyroid Hormones

🟢 TSH: 2.110 mIU/L (Range: 0.27–4.2)

🟢 Free T3: 4.0 pmol/L (Range: 3.1–6.8)

🟢 Free Thyroxine (T4): 17.6 pmol/L (Range: 12–22)

Hormones

🟢 FSH: 5.1 IU/L (Range: 1.5–12.4)

🟢 LH: 4.0 IU/L (Range: 1.7–8.6)

🟢 Oestradiol: 114.0 pmol/L (Range: 41.4–159)

🟢 Testosterone: 18.70 nmol/L (Range: 12–30)

🟢 Free Testosterone (Calculated): 0.3119 nmol/L (Range: 0.198–0.619)

🔴 Prolactin: 847.0 mIU/L (Range: 86–324)

So all good. Started p5p for the prolactin.

Yeh for me I would proceed as in my last post

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[Hilly]

Looks fine to me overall. As with any question like this the following dictates all

Are these exercises ones you connect best with

Are you recovering from this volume.

Are you making progress.

Are the exercises prioritised based on physique needs.

If so the. Your all good 😎

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If you feel good
BG is good

No hypo issues

Then all is fine imo

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If you’re going to start anyway personally I would start now.

Get bloods done first. Make sure all is good.

75mg test E or C Monday / Wed / Fri

Gh – 2iu on wake or pre bed or ideally both.

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[Hilly]

I do all my Trt shots subQ n have done a couple of years now. 0 issues from pinning 10iu daily for 8-16 week periods.

Many of my clients do this.

I then switch to IM for cycles

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[Hilly]

Thank you for the additional replies Allison, Claire and Hilly

I do have a habit of overthinking these things to try optimise all the foundational parts of my set up

Plan to reduce fluids further later on today probably only another 700-900Ml for the remainder of the day (4pm writing this)

Will try the additional salt in final meal and possibly on next food bump add the kiwi in the evening too

Baking soda may be on the cards too haha

Thank you all again

Let us know how you get on bud

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[Hilly]

Sunday

Rest day

5 meals will go in.

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Peter, what level of E2 (estradiol) do you aim for in your clients during the off-season and during prep?

Were they feel best bud n its different for all.

In general it wants to be top of range or just over tho.

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[Hilly]

I think he [Chris Kuess] advocates for lower protein amounts than what you’d usually expect for a 120kg bodybuilder but he doesn’t skip protein in meals. Last I knew, his pre was CoR, whey and banana.

If you struggle with digestion pre training then get some steps done in between your pre meal and training.

hi, so chris pre meal is rice cakes with a banana in all his recent youtube vids.

The thing with steps is i work around 9 – 10 hours depending on the day so i have my pre meal around 4pm as i usually leave work between 5-6 but this can vary massively as i work in logistics.

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If it’s working for you and you are seeing the progress you want then stick with it and keep being consistent bud. That is all that counts

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[Hilly]

Saturday – Rest day and travel day to Peterborough for the PCA show 2moro.

5 meals to go in

steps 10k

Sunday will also be a rest day

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