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[Hilly]

Thurs – Trained delts/arms – no chest as was getting physio done on the bad elbow/tricep/chest side

35 minutes cardio on wake – steps 12k

I had intended to do PWO cardio also but had to go see my dad as he’s not well so session was cut short.

Standing DB lateral – x 8, x 8, x 6F, x 15F
Cable front raises – x 8, 8,x10F
Wide grip upright rows – x 8, x 8, x 7F with a drop set

Seated DB curls – x 15, x15, x 12F
Tricep macine extension – x 10, x 10, 10, x 9F
1 arm cable curl done with 20 seconds rest between arms – 3 sets – reps 12-15 – failure on last set
Flat bar tricep PD – x 15, x 15, x 12F with 2 drop sets

Rushed due to above – elbow still a little sore but it is what is is.

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150 test + 250 mast would be my cycle of choice

Agree with J here

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I agree with Andy – 100mg would be my start point.

That is a pretty hefty cycle mind – 1800mg pre NPP –

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Wed – rest day

2 x 30 minute cardio sessions
Steps 12k –

6 meals in –

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Creatine will draw water into the muscles. Any fluid retention elsewhere will be because you’re not drinking enough water to compensate for this, so increase your daily fluid intake to ensure you stay hydrated.

You could also split the 15g dose up to 5g 3 x a day.

So I’m maybe now in need of more water then before because the of the increased creatine intake?[/quote]
Possibly – IMO for most 10g creatine daily is more than enough –

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Track water
Track food
asses look –

Go meal by meal –

its no real stress at all if your keeping a close eye on things and tracking all –

Just put food back in post show day 1. Keep an eye on were weight was pre bed show 1 and on wake and based on how you looked show 1 do you want these number to be similar or do you need them to be up or down to improve the look

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30 weeks , 0.5 to 0.7 pounds a week would be a solid rate , you should get a lot from that if you stick to a plan / don’t chop and change , get distracted

Fully agree here

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Any protein source that you know digests well for you.

Steak, chicken, Whey Isolate, Greek yoghurt…. plenty of options.

Thanks Clare,

I use all of them . I thought to put in fish few times a week. What do you think betweeen canned tune and fresh fish? maybe canned tune when i dont have a time to prepare something? my brekfast is same 10 years with eggs 😀 maybe oatmeal iso whey and fruit sometihing like that to replace

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these all sound sensible to me as per Clare’s options

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As Sas says – I would run a dieting phase and a GUT reset/healing phase.

Pull out all shitty foods or harder to digest stuff.

Make sure to do morning cardio.
TBJP digest pro – 1 cap am and PM
Add in raw sauerkraut – 20g 2-3 times a day
15g L glutamine on wake and pre bed

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If you started training 16/17 and are super serious till 19/20 then i see no issues with starting your first cycle then personally.

However if your still making good progress then I would want to ride that our for as long as you can before taking the step.

That being said its truly your personal choice – there is no right or wrong answer here just what we advise may be ideal and then what you decide you want to do and when.

Personally I did not take enough time to cover all things 100% before jumping on cycle. I was also still not covering all things 100% when I did. Pretty sure I was around 18 when I did my first one.

So I try and advise people to do much better than I did

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Mast will cause same issues as primo, infact usually less lipid impacting as lipids are more related to e2 levels

Everything you have said above primo does too

Only actual factor is mast won’t lower e2 so you will need to lower test to 150 and run mast at 250

Would you be tempted to increase these doses for BJJ or is 400mg weekly of androgens plenty

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IMO 400mg is enough but there are no rules.

Myself I would be tapering it up a little.[/quote]

Increase straight to the 200mg test and increase mast E to 300mg, that you mentioned previously. Stay on this for 6-8 weeks then run bloods to monitor things?

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Sounds a sensible increase to me 🙂

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0 difference if both are real IMO

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Very popular in strong man/powerlifting circles – not uncommon at all really.

Yes its super toxic
makes you feel mad aggressive and focused I gather from those I know that have ran it.

No place in BB IMO

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