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I would also get blood work done and see exactly what is going on there
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Also agree. I would not worry about this at all
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Sounds a solid plan
Trt phase and imo you shouldn’t go back up until you dial in your training more and set up, you should get so much more progress out of this if it’s all dialled in.
Keep shots consistent don’t not take any
I personally wouldn’t have thrown aromasin in instead I’d have just lowered to 200mg test and do daily shots
Then bump to 250 slowly
Thanks a lot for taking the time to read and respond kuba.
So just to be clear.. shall I just drop to the 120mg + HcG as planned from today or in a weeks time to lower my overall levels now the 20 weeks is concluded whilst going in to a deficit to tidy up for the next 12 weeks (running bloods midway) and then hold at maintenance until this injury is sorted ?
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I’m with Kuba hereFor this question- I would just drop down to the Trt set up now and not go weeks without any test.
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2 options
First as J says keeping test lower , some primo and then using mast to drive overall load up.
Second if you were wanting to use more test then looking to use some EQ to control E2. It works better than primo in most IME and is also less harsh on lipids from what I see in blood work.
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Tuesday – sorry for lack of updates here
In Tenerife still until 2moro
Decided not to train. Only time away from Arilena and kids has been to work
Getting 3 meals in a day
Tendon is feeling better from the rest
Straight back to it Friday
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Hilly
MemberApril 19, 2025 at 11:55 pm in reply to: Blood work & trying to get back to normal testosterone level levelsHi Peter,
results are as follows;
LH 4.5 IU/L
FSH 6.3 IU/L
Testosterone 6.04 nmol/L
Free Testosterone 0.127 mol/L
Prolactin 204 mIU/L
Thanks
Hi JK – i cant see the bloods.
could you type out the hormone results please.
LH
FSH
Testosterone
Free testosterone
prolactin –
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right so your body is working mate – LH and FSH are in range – its only been 6 weeks, this is actually pretty good.Yes test is just 6 but its only been 6 weeks -so just give it another 6-8 weeks and then re test again. It may well keep getting better and all will be well
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i also agree with those above
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i really try and make sure my clients dont over focus having something off plan like this. Having spent over a decade working with people who have eating issues I really try and make sure my clients dont develop issues like this.
Fact is an off plan meal should in essence be a meal you go out or have at home that you enjoy with family/partner/friends you dont have to weigh out. Thats the be all and end all of it.
Your still focused on performance, Nutrition and reaching your goals so you should never be eating crap.
you should also not be over eating.binging etc as this will just mess digestion.Your also in a growth environment so you always want to be getting in more not less kcal
my guidelines to clients are very simple.
Replace a meal with a free meal of choice.
always eat good quality food.
Always be mindful of digestion.
dont stress over it.
Dont be an idiot and binge eatvery common sense stuff
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the idea is off to me – I have had clients do the same thing – Fast for days before social stuff like this and all they end up seeing is a bigger rebound effect
As Kuba says -increase water a little
Slightly lower carbs
increase output during the days you are being more social.Most importantly dont mentally think you have to do silly drastic things before social events as you really dont.
If your body is running effectively as it should be these things really won’t make a blind bit of difference if you behave normally during them
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yeh as J says – high doses of anything increases the chances of side effects.
Most of these drugs cause water retention through different pathways – the response and effect is just individual to us all but most people will notice a fair chunk of water retention from super high doses of GH like that.
There is a variable in terms of what Gh your using and also how you react but almost all will see a spike in BP if they take there Gh to 8-10iu – big dose that is
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Sat – Cardio. – 25 minutes
Travel day to Tenerife with Sarah and our 2 kids – work done as I travelled – 3 solid meals in and then food here in hotel which is pretty Decent – lots of chicken thigh and fish – then chips and rice.
No training today or 2moro –
I got 3 sessions in this week – im home thurs and will train friday/sat/sun PPL so all is covered week to week
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MemberApril 18, 2025 at 7:45 pm in reply to: Blood work & trying to get back to normal testosterone level levelsHi JK – i cant see the bloods.
could you type out the hormone results please.
LH
FSH
Testosterone
Free testosterone
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Hey Hilly, so i basically stopped injecting it, im looking forward to go with 125mg again, daily shots and raw (no ancillaries) so i can get a great view of my bloodwork, thing is,
i start getting that high bp and feeling of unwellness at about week 2-3 of testosterone Use, when do you recommend for bloodwork?
I know that whenever i use low dose anabolics i get superb gains from them but i also get some bad side effects which are here related to estrogen, should i add primo AND proviron directly and see if i go bad at week 2-3 Or should i just sustain, then see bloodwork and act accordingly?
Thanks
with all of these issues I would spend some time working out what works for you and what is causing the issue.
If it were me advising you I would go
125mg test per week split into daily jabs – potentially subq as its such a small dose.
I would also run 25mg proviron daily.
I would run for 4-5 weeks and then asses blood work – See how you feel and what the bloods show and base your following moves off of there.
You need to understand what is actually going on and what will work best for you if you are going to do this. The trick especially for people that are more sensitive to these drugs is on putting lots of work in early doors on understanding your body and what is best for it.
you will then be able to move forward accurately with no issues
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Hey Ali – all of the team here at TBJP are coaches and some of the best in the UK so I would reach out to ones you think you may be a good fit with and enquire about information from them.
The above cycle looks fine if it is working for you and IMO those are decent doses of those compounds – good move on keeping tren dose low.
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you need to count all calories.
in essence your body is counting and using all protein you eat wether you track it or not. I work on total protein intake as we are always eating carbs with a protein source and thus the total protein intake from the meal will be a complete protein intake –
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