[Hilly]

Are you under a doctor for TRT – if so As Kuba says speak to them first.

If not then a PCT is your option here and see what becomes of your natural Test levels

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[Hilly]

I would always go with the leased invasive first in terms of how it works on your body.

So t4 – 100mcg on wake – clinically as Kuba says they start a little lower but I find 100-150mcg a solid spot for most.

keep the other stuff in that you are taking.

Recheck numbers in 6-8 weeks.

If your still not seeing a better read of Free t3 then I would consider 12.5mcg as a starting dose.

Out of interest – are you in a surplus or deficit and how long have you been there for?

Have these numbers been low for a while?

Are they low but in range or under range?

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[Hilly]

Tuesday – Rest day today. -12k steps hit

5 meals in –

Nothing else to note – legs 2moro

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[Hilly]

What about a seated cable row were you pull to chest – you see Dorian Yates do this in all his back workouts as an example

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with the gents above and also I am very glad to see after all this time and advice from all on here you have finally decided to take it onboard.

Take your time
Current rate of gain is perfect
Simply rinse and repeat for 25-30 weeks

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@Clare

I don’t count steps as I don’t have tech to track it but currently:

– 15 min brisk walk fasted outside with my dog, daily.

– No cardio in the gym at all.

– Do brisk walking randomly for errands, all my exercise daily (apart from 1 day off) is lifting 1 – 2hrs.

Full time job is at home sedentary.

In that case, before cutting any more food, I’d increase your activity. Have a daily step count target. You can track this using your phone or getting a cheap pedometer from Amazon. I’d start with 8,000 steps day. Get in some structured cardio, starting with 20 mins on rest days. This can then be tapered up as fat loss stalls.

There is plenty of room here to increase the deficit by moving more, before needing to touch food.

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Fully agree here

Loads of room to build output up and leave food as is to get you were you want to be

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[Hilly]

If its first time ever pinning delts then your going to get PiP in my experience no matter that

That initial jab always hurts more

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with J – 50/50
Split of mast n primo for better E2 control.

Possibly a slight increase in overall mg also

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[Hilly]

Yeh as long as your seeing progress in gym and physique your golden

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[Hilly]

I would stick with that yes

Then just increase duration as needed

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Monday – 216lb. Weight coming down

Cardio done – 25 minutes

Trained delts / tri / chest – forearm tendon still sore

Strength was very good

Lateral raise machine – x 8, x 8, x8, x6f
Cable rear delt – x 10, x10, x 12f
Crucifix cable raise – x 15f, x 12f

Crucifix PD – x 8, x 8, x8, x 6f
Rope PD – x 10, x 8, x 8g
Tri skull press machine – x 8, x 8, x 11f

Pec Dec – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 7f
Chest finished dips , x 10, x 10, x 9F

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[Hilly]

I would consult your GP buddy – we are not doctors and this could be something serious or nothing at all but best get a doctor to do the correct checks IMO

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[Hilly]

an 8 lb drop is pretty mad TBH – yes I see people drop after a high day due to dropping some inflammation etc but I must say 8lb I have not seen before.

I would run another high day – asses what the scale does and what visuals do and then get back to digging –

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I ended up adding 200cal to both TD and NTD and reducing steps 2000, so i’ll lean out a bit more but be on the way back up. Any ideas how much leaner/how many more weeks to continue fat loss at around this rate for before i’ll no longer be bringing any benefit to my next push?

For me its as per my last post – the leaner you can get without those areas the better overall –

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[Hilly]

Sunday – Went for a walk on wake

then was at the PCA show in wolverhampton with 2 clients and then the long drive home.

Food on point – 5 meals in today

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