[Hilly]

Fully agree with those above. I’m a huge L glutamine fan.

15g on wake Empty stomach for me daily year round

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[Hilly]

With doing that (I will be as it just makes sense with how I’m feeling) Is there is a high likelihood that my food will be too high to continue to eat that much and not gain bf rapidly? Just continue until I see weight increase or would I be wise to pull some prior so that doesn’t happen as quickly?

I don’t see a need to pull food tbh based on what your saying , pics n current doses

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I would suggest a better understanding of these drugs tbh before going ahead with this.

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[Hilly]

if you made that much progress from just 175mg testosterone then i would be tempted to just rinse the same process again

start with 250-300mg

Run for 8-10 weeks – assess – if things look to be going just as good and the first time then stick with it.

if you decide you want to push further simple bump up 100mg from initial dose.

I would get bloods done at that 8-10 week mark just for information on were E2 is incase at some point you start noticing some negative sides and need to alter things a little

Thanks a lot, really helpful!

Regarding your point that also Kuba mentioned: When I start seeing negative sides from high E2, would you start adding nandrolone? Let’s say I start feeling negative side effect from 300mg test, would you suggest adding 100mg of nandrolone?[/quote]

Nandrolone would

Make your e2 sides 10x worse

You would at this point start some primo or mast [/quote]
Exactly this –

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Monday – cardio done
All meals will go in

Trained FB in David Lloyd’s as will always be the case. This one isn’t log booked

Only work sets listed

Standing DB lateral – x 8, x 7f, x 14f
Seated DB front raise – x 8, x 13f
Seated DB curl – x 8, x 7f
1 arm tri PD – x 8, x 9F
Ez curl – x8, x 12f with 1 drop
Ez push down – x8, x 9F with 1 drop
Oh shoulder width pull down – x 8, x 9F with a drop
1 arm lat focused PD – x 8, x7f
Pec Dec – x 8, x 8, x 9F , x 13f

Smith squats – x 8, x 9F , x 12f
Smith dead stop RDL – x 8, x 13f
Sissy squat – x 20

Good workout – still adjusting mentally to how you don’t carry the same pumps during n post session

Still enjoying sessions

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Soreness is not always an indicator of muscle growth. However as you are just 1 week into this you are likely not pushing into true new strength levels yet.

what you may well find is as you log weights session to session and week to week you will continue to increase the intensity of the sessions as you are then pushing into true new strength levels. You may well then find soreness increases.

If you still seem to be recovering very well then at this point you can start to look to add more volume in areas you feel your physique needs it first or if there is no ficus then just 1 work set per body part per week – and go from there as ultimately more working volume we can recover from when in a surplus will lead to more muscle gained to a point

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First I agree with Maddy – I would want to see this ran for 2 weeks solid wth not 1 meal missed before I analysed and worried about an increase.

If then the goal is to grow and we saw no increase over that 2 weeks I would add 3-400kcal daily

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If this meal plan is digesting well and achieving your goals then it looks fine to me.

I would prefer a protein shake with that banana PWO 100%.

Training to rest days is again person depending. If your progressing well keeping them consistent then keep them consistent. If you find fat gain seems to be to high id first lower things from rest days and focus on keeping training days higher in most cases

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I dont see why there needs to be a set time line or focus here TBH.

If you really want to make huge changes – then focus on growing as best as you can while not getting out of shape/to soft – be sensible with it but push and just see how long that plays out for.

when you feel you are to soft then cut back down and cut quite hard and then repeat the process.

How this plays out in terms of time lines will vary so much. Individual response, drug use, what occurs in life during these phases (stress/injury/Life)

Then there is also knowing your body. I find personally if I push to hard to quick my hunger just stops immediately and I struggle to get food in so a prolonged approach makes more sense for me.

With others this isn’t the case.

Being 38 myself and working with many clients my age and older and watching them make crazy changes I do not feel your current age means you cant make superb progress and push hard in this areas as long as health is good etc etc

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I would simply pull the t3 and clen out now –

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i feel like i keep saying this to most of your posts but without getting blood work done we would just be guessing.

It wouldn’t make sense for most people that E2 would drop that much from 100mg primo but that doesnt mean it hasn’t for you. Again tho as you didnt know were your numbers are before you adjusted the drugs its impossible to tell what may or may not of caused this.

I do agree tho if you feel shit every time you add primo in seems silly to keep adding it in

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Cheers for all the advice guys.

My current dosages are

Test P 300

Npp 300

Mast P 300

These are split between MWF

If adding Primo and taking Kubas advice of lowering the npp, would this be a better cycle…

Test P 300

Primo 600

Npp 150

Mast P 150

Again split between MWF, or would you guys recommend alternative dosages?

Cheers

its impossible to say what would be a better cycle for you without watching you play it out and knowing how you respond.

For me personally I would be going with the below based on the current total doses and compounds

300mg test p
300mg primo
300mg mast e
100mg NPP –

I would then be checking my E2 at around week 6 and assessing how I felt/looked and what bloods said and adjusting the ratio if it was needed based on all of this feedback.

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[Hilly]

if you made that much progress from just 175mg testosterone then i would be tempted to just rinse the same process again

start with 250-300mg
Run for 8-10 weeks – assess – if things look to be going just as good and the first time then stick with it.

if you decide you want to push further simple bump up 100mg from initial dose.

I would get bloods done at that 8-10 week mark just for information on were E2 is incase at some point you start noticing some negative sides and need to alter things a little

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I always prefer a taper with myself and clients

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Sunday – rest day

Cardio – 20 mins

Tennis n soft play 8-10:30
Kids party 12-2
Park 2:30-4
Home to chill

Stomach still not great. Going to get 5 meals in. It does feel better today mind which is a bonus

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