[Hilly]

Cycle for next 8 weeks

600 test

300 EQ

600 Mast

Pre gym – 4 weeks test Susp

4 weeks oxy

Gh – none currently as I’m coming to the conclusion there may be a link between this use and some ED issues I was experiencing so am currently trying to figure if this is the case

I have had this before mate. GH shots raising my prolactin. Can I ask why the mast on top of test/eq doesn’t that drop estro too low? Is it just there to bump total mg of cycle?[/quote]
More or less mate. Scroll up n I’ve explained in detail.

I hope you are good.

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[Hilly]

Common mistakes –

doing to much volume
Not doing enough volume

I tend to find people either set up with to much work or simply not enough as they are unsure about how much there own body needs to actually benefit from the split and how much they can recover from.

Its about finding what works best for you and were you are at now any our current development.

In terms of Nutriton – this will be based off if you are cutting or growing and needs to be inline with these goals

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[Hilly]

Yeh this is not something i have ever considered for myself personally and dont feel the majority need to TBH

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Volume looks fine to me as does exercise selection. – its just a matter of focusing on if these exercises all feel good and you connect well with them all which im presuming you do and then how you manage recovery and gauge progression from here

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Just grow man. As a beginner with minimal muscle mass , you don’t need to get lean lean to deep well. It wasn’t even a thing in my first 10 years of growing. Just eat and grow, pull back if you get day / stop responding

Fully agree here

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Cheers guys.

I was thinking about Primo, but normally get bad pip when using it, but would you say halving my current masteron dose and adding primo as the other half would be a good choice, alongside the test and npp?

If E2 is an issue currently and needs bringing down then yes this would be a wise move.

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Saturday – Once again my stomach is not feeling great and food has been hard work but have gotten it in.

Cardio done
Worked most of day and sorted house and shopping out for Arilena landing 2moro.

Trained Upper with a mate of mine so a different flow to the workout. I really need to stop this and prioritise my own stuff but it is what it is.

Standing cable laterals – 4 x 10-15 hard work sets – last 2 hitting failure
Machine press – x 11F, x 8F
Overhand pull down machine – x 9F, x 13F
1 arm lat focused PD – x 8F
Seated cable v grip row – 2 x 12-15 – both to failure
Chest focused dips – x 8F, x 6F, x 17F
Ez cable curl – x 9F, x 14F
Dual cable curl – x 8F
Rope PD – x 15F, x 8F with 2 drop sets

Out for sushi post training to try and get some extra food in but failed miserably

5 meals in so far and will get meal 6 in pre bed so happy there.

Rest day 2moro

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Drinking on a saturday may well skew those results. I would avoid drinking 7-10 days prior to blood work to make sure there is no acute effect on the blood results.

However as Kuba says possibly alcohol consumption is the issue at hand

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[Hilly]

so for me the only things that may potentially be an issue are the high E2 and prolactin . However they are only an issue IMO if you are experiencing any side effects related to this.

Do you feel like you are holding lots of water.
does your libido/erections seem worse than normal
Do you feel different mentally.
Any gyno issues.

If you feel good and all is well then I wouldn’t be concerned at all by these numbers

your folate is very low and this could be why the RBC distribution is off – so it would make sense here to supplement with vitamin b12 – potentially

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I would do a

200 calorie bump on training day from carbs

150 rest day from carbs / fats

Add this in and see how weight moves

Fully agree here

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either BP is high or your blood is to thin.

i would check BP daily on wake and pre bed for a week.
I would get bloods checked

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In this set up I dont really feel there is a need unless as Kuba says you need to control E2 but I would be adding a little primo mixed in with the mast over using proviron for most

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365mg is defo pushing it if your trying to drop stress

300 or 250mg total would be really perfect

Cheers Jordan yeah I just feel a pull back is deffo needed what about 250mg test 50mg primo or 200mg test 100mg mast? [/quote]

The question here is which of these makes you feel best and puts your hormones in the right spot.

for me – 250mg test and 50mg primo will control E2 just fine and put me in a great spot. For you it may not.

I then have other clients that feel best on 200mg test and 100mg mast.

There is no right answer – its just working out what suits yourself better. [/quote]

Cheers my man I appreciate it! I will try 250mg test 50mg primo see if this feels good. If not I’ll try test + mast I always like test and mast because it increases free testosterone which feels good especially for libido and sex drive [/quote]
I do find this is the case for most that can get away with with E2 being a little higher with no issues

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Friday – slept well and no more sickness so defo must of been the food from TGI

Stomach as expected was a little off all day but have managed to get most meals in so far.

cardio done – 20 minutes on wake.

Very busy work day as per.

Trained later this evening and just hit legs – so I can hit upper 2moro and then ive covered everything twice and trained 3 days. So not end of the world but not as per plan which I annoying.

Legs I took a little easier for obvious reasons and was selective on exercises as my stomach still wasn’t feeling great

very bro style workout. Everything was 4 sets of 8-10 reps – last one hitting positive failure unless stated

Lay ham curls
extensions
Seated ham curl
Pendulum – 4 x 8 – no failure set stopped just short
leg press – 3 x 15 – last one hitting failure
Hypers –

Stomach held up, no shits during workout so a win lol.

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Matteo 9 weeks is not enough time to start a split and then swap it . You are probably battered and just need a good ol rest .

I would take 4 days out of the gym completely and then run the first rotation 50% volume .

That should see you come back full of beans and have another 8 weeks of so of pushing before you need to pull back again

Fully agree with Oscar here

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