[Hilly]

PPL looks fine but make all exercises just 2 sets to start

Upper – remove the frontal and sagital pulls IMO.

Lower – Just 1 bicep exercises with 2-3 sets – remove the hip thrust

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At that dose with lower test you may not notice anything bud, if injury is ongoing it’s probably something you need to fix not mask with drugs bud

Fully agree

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I would certainly agree that this is the best approach generally speaking. Out of curiosity sir, in any of your clients or peers who use Deca only cycles, have you found GH to retain efficacy in this context? I would think that Jordan is probably the best case study here.

I have done nandralone only cycles and did not feel the GH worked any more or less but TBH it would be very hard to pin point if it stopped working IMO

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I would take it all just as i started training.

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Does that include orals aswel? I’ve got Anavar and Proviron dated Feb / March ’26.

yes for sure

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I would switch to primo but pull the dose down to 250mg as you may find it lowers E2 to much with primo in general having a stronger effect at reducing E2. Much stronger in general than masteron for most.

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Only knock on effect from a higher test levels is getting more jacked with better muscle growth and performance improvements lol.

As the gents say – no issues at all

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I have always dosed mine in 250mcg doses as I dont want any impact on rate of digestion,.

I found 250mcg 4 x a week massively improved HBA1C and aided in fat loss well the slightest of increase in RHR, no impact on sleep or digestion. No reduction in hunger either but I dont want that.

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Thursday. -Rest day

steps – 12k

5 meals in

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Wednesday – More deep tissue work

steps – 15k

5 meals in

No training –

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Tuesday – 15k steps

trained full body working around tendon issues which continue to drive me insane.

Standing side laterals – 5 x 10-12 – nothing to failure
Chest press – 5 x 10-12 – nothing to failure
Ez cable curl – 5 x 10-12
Overhand pull down – 4 x 10-12
seated row – 3 x 10-12
extensions – 3 x 10-12
ham curls – 3 x 10-12
leg press – 2 x 20

very mix match workout – trying to not aggravate the arms which ill be honest is really getting me down at the minute.

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I´snt the TSH level that low, cause of the large amount of exogenous T4 which is taken, to keep hormone levels within range?

My intentions were, if i reduce t4 ammount from 250mcg to maybe 150mcg, that TSHwill go up, my thryoid will start produce more hormones and the t3 and t4 will also be in range.

Yes. I just see no one ever taking that much t4 never mind with that poor read from it.

I’ve also had 3 clients this year alone with shit 4.

So again I would change it

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I’m of the opinion to not over think to many things and rely on progress and feel first.

Make sure your GH is GH n then your good. Your response is your genetic response. If feel should see more then maybe you need more.

Estrogen is beneficial toward muscle building for sure. However having it to high causes issues for most. I don’t try and always keep it in range. I try to keep it were my client feels best. However IME which is a fair amount the majority of the bigger guys I have worked with were all able to handle higher E2 levels there is no doubt. So confirmation for me alongside the science limiting it / reducing it into range just to be in range makes no sense.

I am also becoming less n less interested in a lot of blood work stuff when it comes to hormones / test levels and IGF levels. They are obv important but I don’t live or die by them as they shift so much it’s nuts.

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That seems like a real low read for that much t4.

I would change brand

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The reason I ask is, I’m on 80mcg Clen, and I feel nothing from it, when I have used Rohm labs, I felt it.

I would get some ROHM then for sure.

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