[Hilly]

so to confirm

E2 was in range

Prolactin was very high ?

Yes bro, e2 was in range at 67.8mmol and prolactin was very high well above the reference range at 509. [/quote]
Based on this i would pull back to a cruise dose – upping test you will likely up E2 and thus end up raising prolactin further which may make things worse not better

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[Hilly]

Saturday – Trained fasted this morning on wake and then spent 6 hours working by the pool before catching some sun.

Training was just a make shift session in hotel gym – to cover shoulders/chest – was very basic but got the job done

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with Clare as usual here.

I would also be adding in Growth hormone 2-3iu pre bed as a priority TBH

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[Hilly]

the real key to GH use IMO is simply making sure your using it. Then in terms of timing its looking to manipulate the mechanisms of the drug but how actual relevant this is in terms of what your actually going to see in real time benefits is debatable.

So for example if your looking to grow then arguably pre gym or pre bed makes the most sense – Pre bed is when we naturally produce most of our growth hormone and we technically heal/recover and grow as we sleep so a dose here can make sense. Pre workout arguably makes sense to enhance IGF levels and the growth factor pathways that occur when we train.

Taking a dose on wake to increase lipolysis and enhance fat burning during the morning if your doing cardio and keeping carbs out can then make sense.

So its picking the timing that suits what your trying to achieve.

Scientifically in medically studies a bigger dose EOD/MWF has been shown to drive growth better due to higher spikes in IGF and if your dosing less frequently there is less potential for running into insulin resistant issues.

So if your looking to be geeky etc then you can play with timings based on this sort of information but again in real terms its just about taking the stuff and the more you can afford to take ultimately the more you will see from the drug in most peoples experiences

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[Hilly]

An EAA, alongside a Cyclic Dextrin based product would be far more beneficial and easier to digest than Whey Protein and maltodextrin. You’ll likely run into digestives issues, which will in turn affect your performance.

TBJP EAAs or MPS MAX, with Performance Fuel or Sustain would be the best options.

Couldnt agree more 🙂

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[Hilly]

so to confirm

E2 was in range
Prolactin was very high ?

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[Hilly]

Thurs i flew out to spain for a few days.

ive not trained thurs/Fri – just had a little rest time and worked.

Im going to train Sat and sunday once i return to UK.

food is just 4 meals per day – I brought chicken and rice to cover 1 meal for each day im here and then eating up in terms of protein etc at meal times

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[Hilly]

Try simply chicken/rice and coconut oil for that first meal and pre gym meal – See if this removes the issue

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[Hilly]

No real direct benefit no.

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[Hilly]

Personal preference TBH as many do it differently.

for me I like to start it off earlier and use it EOD and then taper up as prep progresses allowing me to keep food higher for longer.

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[Hilly]

Weight has dripped quite hard this passed week as the AAs peak – weight 212lb

No cardio done – sleep was a little better – 12-5am – Arilena woke at 12 but then slept till 6.

All meals in

Trained legs with a client dow at UF Leeds north – so different kit etc but same approach

Lay ham curl – x 8, x 8, x 14F with partials
Extensions – x 8, x 8, x 12F with partials
Leg press – x8, x8, x 9f with 3 forced reps
1 leg leg press – x8, x 15F
Seated ham curl – x 8, x 12F with partials
Adductor – x 10, x 16F with a drop set

Great session all around – body felt good, pump was nuts and strength felt great.

off to Spain in the morin for 4 days so will likely rest 2moro and train Friday

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[Hilly]

Some people simply hold more fluid from GH than others.

In general genetics tend to hold more water than pharma.

So as per usual in this game I would do some playing around and see if you notice a difference

Yeah I’m that some people then, not fussed right now as I’m looking and feeling fuller 3 days back on it

But I’ll play around with it and see if there’s any difference, most likely won’t be but worth a try

You know with pharma GH could you do a little less dosage of it then general genetic stuff and still get the same benefits? Or potentially better benefits

Cheers[/quote]
Gh is Gh if all real so i dont feel less pharma equates to more generic if its all 100% real

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[Hilly]

Also tabs like proviron clen anavar ?

Hey buddy! Personally I would use it I think it will be fine! They do go off in my opinion eventually but I would likely still use it up to 12 months after expiration, anything longer than that I would probably not use.

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yes

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[Hilly]

I was advised against primo because there are probably only fakes on the market. Unfortunately, I can’t get a dht from the pharmacy.

Even if it is very discreet, can I ask you about your experiences here?

if you cant get primo or mast then I would be looking at low dose Arimidex

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[Hilly]

Tuesday – sleep a little better but only because Arilena took it upon herself to get in my bed while I was downstairs working the little cutey so I just left her sleeping

No cardio as she was up early as per. However this morning we have been to a trampoline/ bouncy castle place for almost 3 hours so expenditure is well covered lol

Rest day today
All meals going in fine.

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