[Hilly]

Tuesday

Sleep. Still an issue. I constantly wake up 1:30-2 every night.

Arilena was then up 4:50 today ffs. I’m
Off to buy a complete black out blind for her room today.

I’m also going to bath n bed her earlier and see if thid helps.

Rest day today
No cardio done
All meals in

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[Hilly]

Hello peter how can i tell my eq is fake i take 250 test and 250eq at week 5 blood work if my estrogen high is fake ? I nit done before any e2 test

It’s almost impossible to say for sure. Not every one gets the E2 response. Just alot do

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Monday – Weight not taken and no cardio done.

Terrible night sleep – Changing Arilena from a Cot to bed so she as up during the night and wanted to be in with me which meant my sleep sucked. She then was up from 5:20 having her bottle of milk and would not go back off.

All meals in.
lots of steps done with Arilena

Trained arms and a little delts – Stengtth was pretty good. I dont log book this session.

Seated side laterals – x 8, x 8, x 9F, x 15F with 2 drop sets
Seated DB front raise – x 13F, x 11F

Ez cable curl to forehead SS with EZ cable PD – x 15, x 15 – x 14F, 9F
Ez cable curl Ss Rope overhead extensions – x 8, x 8, x 10F – all hard wok sets
1 arm cable curl SS 1 arm Tri PD – 3 sets done back to back all to failure

Hang leg raises – 3 x 12-15 reps

limited time due to work and having to be back for Arilena.

Rest day 2moro – see if sleep is any better tonight –

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just get him to read this thread were we all say this is without a doubt an insanely stupid first cycle

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it looks to me like your causing a constant yo yo effect.

Why not just sit at your cruise dose and work on getting libido good before moving back to cycle as you have only been on reduced dose for 4 weeks?

what I would recommend doing is finding a cruise dose set up were you know everything is good and settled and libido is good – you then have this base to work from/fall back to all the time.

Once you find this and have the numbers from blood work you can then work on moving to cycles with the aim of keeping things around were they should be to maintain a good libido.

personally I would hold here another 4 weeks – bring in the vitamin b6 at 300mg and see if this brings prolactin down and into range – remove the AI and see were this puts your E2.

Asses sex drive and keep playing with things till all is good- then move on from there

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Sunday – up early in Hull for clients competing and then a 30 minutes fasted walk.

Just 4 meals in today due to being at show and hotel refusing to pud 2 meals in there fridge

Rest day – steps high –

Nothing else to report

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if you have been off PED a few years and this is were things are then this may all you are going to see bud.

I would look at the TBJP natural stack to see if this helps.

I would make sure you are getting 20% of your macros from good quality fats.

Make sure you are in a slight kcal surplus.

make sure you are not over training.

Make sure stress is low and you are doing regular cardio for heart health.

TBJP omega pro at 6g daily minimum

Retest in 4-5 months

Hi Hilly, hope you’ve been keeping well!

Thanks for that info I will take a look at the supps recommended.

Part of me wants to go down the TRT route to optimise my test levels but stay within the range, hoping this will make me more energetic and bring back the libido.

Based on my results what sort of dosage would you suggest to start on?[/quote]
Im good thanks bud and hope you are to.

If your wanting to go down TRT – I always recommend 150mg Test -either split MWF done IM or daily subq im now also a fan of.

then run bloods in 6 weeks and tweak dosing based off what you see here 🙂

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what i would recommend doing is starting with a slightly lower dose and getting hormones checked at week 5.

Potentially

400mg test, 250mg EQ and 150mg NPP – total load 800mg.

Run this and then test bloods, see how you feel/look and how progress is and then asses there and make any changes if needed

Thank you again, is 250mg eq enough to get the vascularity benefits? Going on holiday😂

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this is bodyfat depending and genetic – if your not very lean it wont do shit here lol

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Sat – weight – 215lb – coming up to week 2 on cycle so the increase is expected

Cardio done and dam im sweating more lately.

All meals in – late drive to Hull for the PCA Uni but have meals packed for 2moro which will be a rest day.

Trained back with a client and was a great session. Strength was up but only a tad and not as much as I would of expected and has been in other sessions

Rope pull over -3 x 10-12 reps – warm up stuff here
Overhand PD – x 8, x 14F
Barbell row as some one was on the smith – Strength was good but bad idea as my back was then sore – x 8, x 8, x 7f
1 arm lat focused PD – x 8, x 9F
Chest supported Upper back row – x8, x 11F
1 arm seated HS row -x8, x 12F
V grip row 3 x 10 reps with 10 seconds rest.

I am enjoying logging sessions again but the down side is that I hate not being able to get on stuff – it really effects my mood and focus when I then have to change stuff up – my moan for the day

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if you have been off PED a few years and this is were things are then this may all you are going to see bud.

I would look at the TBJP natural stack to see if this helps.

I would make sure you are getting 20% of your macros from good quality fats.
Make sure you are in a slight kcal surplus.
make sure you are not over training.
Make sure stress is low and you are doing regular cardio for heart health.
TBJP omega pro at 6g daily minimum

Retest in 4-5 months

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what i would recommend doing is starting with a slightly lower dose and getting hormones checked at week 5.

Potentially

400mg test, 250mg EQ and 150mg NPP – total load 800mg.

Run this and then test bloods, see how you feel/look and how progress is and then asses there and make any changes if needed

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it is impossible to say what the best ratio for you would be as this is all very individual.

For me I would get on very well with 500mg test, 300mg Eq and 200gm NPP –

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Friday – Cardio done – Weight 214.5lb

All meals in

New car sorted

busy work day done.

Trained delts/shoulders in UF with ac client so was a random workout and nothing logged.

Seated side lateral – x 8, x 8, x 7F, x 14F
Rear delt machine – x 8, x 16F, x 12F
Seated DB front raise – x 10F, x 8F
Different side lateral machine – x 8, x 11F with a tad stoop – x 8F with 2 drop sets

Pec dec. – x 8, x 8, x 14F, x 8f
Incline chest press – Rest pause set – x 11/6/3
Hist narrow grip press – x 8F, x 14F

Quick workout as was super busy. -strength was good, pumps were good. Little niggle n right left wrist from the lateral machine I dont normally use

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What the difference dhb and eq ?

2 completely different drugs buddy – both in there mechanical make up and what they do from my understanding –

DHB seems to be much stronger in terms of muscle building potential – doesn’t have an AI effect like Eq does – doesn’t cause any changes to blood thickness etc – DHB also potentially seems to increase insulin sensitivity some how and aid in getting leaner or maintaining a better body composition IME.

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Hello bud – there is a sticky in the health section on how to run a PCT –

For me I would drop off the test and give 4 weeks for it to clear out (dose depending)

I would then run

HCG at 1500IU 3 x a week for 3-4 weeks –
Clomid – 100mg for 5 days and then 50mg clomid for 25 days
Nolva at 10-20mg alongside the clomid use

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