[Hilly]

High prolactin can defo cause issues.

I would retest bloods in 4-5 weeks to asses were prolactin is and were sex drive is and see if it needs bringing down further.

Can you re confirm cycle please as im presuming it isn’t test and test

Also what was the range of the E2 – as that looks pretty close to bottom end of the UK range and even tho its in range this can also cause low sex drive

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[Hilly]

As Clare rightly states the issue here is likely she is doing way to much and under eating alongside maintaining to low body fat levels.

All of his is basically a recipe for disaster with female hormones

i would defo look to devise plan on building her food up over time, Reducing output and getting her body refreshed and in a healthy state and then recheck those hormones.

I wold also defo Drop the C and Y

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Thursday – sleep was as per terrible post legs -drives me insane this does.

Cardio done
Busy with work in general and having to sort a new car out quicker than expected.

Arilena has been away with her mum and they came back early so I ditched training to go see her for a few hours which was great.

This meant im well behind with food however – so will make my last 2 meals much bigger in protein portions and then ill just train 2moro so no major issues and time with Arilena always takes priority

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if its real high then start with 300mg bud. I cant see any bloods in any of your 3 threads

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Ive never checked a clients blood work to see were E2 is into a show ever and I dont believe many if any do as J says.

If this is the best you have looked then dont over think it – just make sure your peeled and cruise on in –

I got my bloods done as I was 5 weeks into my cycle which I always do, it wasn’t purely to check my e2 it was to check everything

But of course I’m keeping my head screwed on and ready to enjoy myself, probs see you there, think you’ve got a client at the PCA show [/quote]
Ill be there bud if its the PCA Uni 🙂

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it may very well aid a little with joints – However it could be several things causing the issue and I would prefer to try and rectify it properly over using a drug to mask it.

Are you getting regular therapy work.
is hydration on point.
Are you doing mobility work.
Have you checked current hormones are in a good spot.

i would also consider looking at the TBJP joint stack.

Adding in nandrolone may well lubricate the joints and remove pain but it may also just mask issues that will over time get worse

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Wednesday – sleep was very good last night – eye is still a bit funky and is sore today probably as its healing.

Cardio done
All meals in

Trained legs and was a very good session with strength increases across the board.

Seated ham curls – x 8, x 11F, x 14F
Extensions – x 8, x 8, x 16F
Smith squat – x8, x 7F
hip press – x8, x 10F
Stand ham curl – x 8, x 9F
Adductor – x 8, x 8, x 11F

Totally fried after this

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Ive never checked a clients blood work to see were E2 is into a show ever and I dont believe many if any do as J says.

If this is the best you have looked then dont over think it – just make sure your peeled and cruise on in –

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cycling carbs is simply a way of cycling calories remember – so if you dont pull the carbs and fats down then your not cycling anything.

The idea of carb cycling is to prioritise carbs and thus glycogen for training days or specific body part days or to refuel/reload glycogen levels and yo yo them. There is also the goal/theory of spiking leptin levels and the metabolism.

However in essence its just a way or manipulating things over the week to create a deficit which is the ultimate goal.

How you chose to do this is depending on what you find works best for yourself both in terms of performance and mentally adhering to the plan and then what works best for you for fat loss.

So most people will run low days, medium days with the odd or regular high day.

you can however just have a set amount between training days and rest days and keep it simpler

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Tuesday – eye is not bad today – little funky as I have to put ointment into it not drops 3 x a day so eye sight goes a little blurred for an hour afterwards and I felt pretty tired all day today – I had deep tissue booked in so this wont of helped.

I did get the session I missed yesterday in which was just arms and a little delts in a local gym so not to bad.

All meals in
Cardio done.

Moving into week 2 cycle. Strength was defo better overall.

Cable Y raises – x 8, x 8, x 11F, x 7f with a drop set
1 arm cable raises – 2 sets done back to back to failure

EZ bar curl to head SS with EZ bar push down – x 12, x 12 x 15F, x 12F
1 arm DB preacher curl – x 8, x 7F, x 11F
1 arm tri PD- x 8, x 9F, x 13F
Preacher machine – x 8, x 13F with 2 drop sets
Tri extension machine – x 8, x 11F with 2 drop sets

Short and sweet. – no PWO cardio

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Monday – meals on point till this afternoon and cardio done on wake.

I then had minor surgery so to speak on my left eye lid – were I had some cysts (a little like a stye but worse) removed – they thought there was 2 but there were 4 to be cut out which although nothing major was far from fun.

So just rested today – missed 2 meals.

should be totally Fine 2moro on wake they said – eye is just a little swollen and funny from the bleeding at the minute

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Well if we consider some of the best coaches and athletes in th world have done these things I would say there has to be merit.

Scott Stevenson had me and has alot of his clients cut water hard at 2-4pm day before the show

Milos/chad have people deplete hard I believe.

Scott likes the back off to protein/fat after carving up.

Kuba has superb success focusing on dropping fatigue and being ready early.

Martin has great success using high doses of natural diuretics. Scott Stevenson also had me use natural diuretics plus a very hard water cut

So for me there as to be merit to all of this as the best in the world are doing it. Does this mean its a must or there isn’t other ways with just as much merit 0 course not.

I do these days agree with Kubas thoughts that dropping off fatigue is key.

I also dont feel the need to really deplete people further down simply just to refill what you depleted off.

I do like the idea of a clean up day after loading.

I also feel personally instead of doing mad things with water and natural diuretics it is much simpler and more effective to use low dose diazide if and when needed.

The real point for me here is that all of this stuff works when the person carrying it out knows what they are doing and has a well thought out plan laid out.

however again as Kuba says its all useless if your not were you need to be in the first place

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My opinion – get lean, really lean.

Get body comp great, hunger high, insulin sensitivity good.

Get yourself back in a great routine, adherence spot on – I’m not sure on your goals but getting busy with studies etc is no reason to be off plan, you still have to eat and move so it may as well be good food rather than rubbish food as it’ll make brain function and productivity higher if you stay doing what you need to. My brother is a doctor he used his busier periods of work and study time to diet as it made him more productive so it’s not impossible just need to not make excuses.

Anyway from here as you’ve hit a wall with feeling bloated and appetite isn’t there – take a massive re set with a diet and then focus on being fully to plan when you build back into a growing phase so you can make progress doing a 7 week diet here and a 10 week push there and a 8 week diet and a 8 week push isn’t really going to yield the most results. Diet hard do 10-12 weeks and then go into a proper offseason for a good 20 weeks and stick to plan

couldnt agree more

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yeh totally fine Imo

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Appreciate the reply Hilly.

Yeah pretty much, it was the same bottle that I ended the cruise with and started the cycle with and I’ve opened a new bottle since so that’s what was causing the confusion as it “worked” essentially during cruise but then not when the dose increased so maybe the new bottle was underdosed…?

I’ll stop arimidex now.

In your opinion would you up the test to initially? I’ll retest in 5-6 weeks and see where everything is at but I guess cycle is starting now 10 weeks later than expected

well if 250mg of this test is putting you at 25mmol then I would be wanting to at least double this.

As recently I have been running 200mg Test C from rohm and got a read of 39mmol – This is my cruise dose – as I now move to cycle I am doubling this which will put me at 80ish

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