[Hilly]

Hey buddy, I’m not a huge fan of primo. I’ve always been sound on test and mast. If you was doing well on that then discontinue the promo and go back to test and mast.

Hey bro! Yes I know that primo really brings e2 down hard so it just means I have to use a lot more test. I loved test and mast but masteron didn’t touch my e2 at all it didn’t bring it down one bit so if I was on 300mg test I would of needed to use an AI to keep estrogen in check hence the reason for swapping to primo [/quote]
No reason why you cant use both bud – doesn’t have to be one or the other.

Masteron tends to make people feel great on cycle and I have seen countless bloods were it improves free test etc.

so potentially use a mixture of both.

Example.

Ive just had bloods done – test 36 – E2 222 – I feel fine but I am bumping the test a little as its not were I want it – I dont want my E2 climbing so I have added in 50mg primo and 100mg mast – I will then asses again in 4 weeks but this seems to work very well mixing the 2 like this for clients and myself in the past –

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[Hilly]

Yes my e2 on test and mast was actually high mate because masteon wasn’t bringing my total e2 down at all it wasn’t touching it, it was just acting like a serm. This is why I switched to primo to bring total e2 down bro. But I will probably need too use more test now I’m on primo

and this is the trick – getting the balance right for you

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[Hilly]

Wed – 10/4 – Weight 210.5lb –

Cardio – 20 minutes on wake – less here due to Arilena waking up

All meals in

Trained delts/chest – good session overall

Standing Db laterals – x8, x 11F, x 6F with 2 drop sets
Seated Db front raise – x 8, x 12F, x 9F
Db rear delts – 19f, x 11F
Cable Y raises – x 8, x 8, x 7F

Seated machine press – x 8, x 8, x 9F, x 12F with 2 drop sets
Incline plate loaded press – x 8, x 7f, x 113F
Dip machine test focused – x 8, x 14F, x 8F

15 minutes on stairs PWO

Strength was decent, pumps good considering food still low and supplements low. No niggles to note.

happy enough,

Gh goes in tonight – just going to go with 5iu bolabs pre bed this week – see what I notice over the next week

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Sub q – Trt blood work results
3 weeks at 250mg
Seems the raw is a little under dosed. This runs in line with last bloods I did myself and some others seen.
Free test and androgen index is very good showing potential benefits to the subQ approach
E2 is no different to a normal cruise set up done IM at same dose.
So this confirms with what I’ve seen on others bloods doing same thing.
There doesn’t seem to be any additional benefit in controlling E2 from jabbing SubQ
Results
Testosterone – 35.7
E2 – 233
Free Test – 1.15
Free androgen index – 321
Prolactin – 239

Is that raw pharma bud?[/quote]
yes bud

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TBJP love heart and heart care if not using are IMO a must.

PLus a good dose 5g daily minimum of TBJP omega 3

Yea I’m currently on 3g of Omega 3 per day but will look into the Love Heart and Heart Care. Is there any specific ingredient that I should be looking for individually?[/quote]
everything in them bud TBH

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Cycle adjustment that will start next week.

Test will go to 50mg daily subq – this is simply to make up for the stuff being under dosed –

Primo in at 50mg – masteron in at 100mg – this is jabbed IM once per week as is enanthate ester – this is Simply stepping up to a cruise from TRT

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Tuesday – Rest day – no cardio done as once again Arilena was up super early – I am going to have to start getting up at 4:30 from next week so will do my best to alter my bed time for this.

Total rest day today and spent all day with Arilena which as usual has been loads of fun being bossed about.

all meals in –

Still no GH started – As I am waiting on some billable generic Gh to try

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Hello sir

Do you alter training for yourself and clients when in a dieting phase? Eg taking out drop sets, rest pause sets etc deeper into a dieting phase? Thank you !

Hello my man – yes I do

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Fully agree with J here – get perfect at the core basics and progress them while eating enough to grow.

Most importantly go with exercises you feel hit the target muscle the best. If your doing something and afterwards that muscle target doesn’t feel pumped or remotely sore/tight the following days I would consider a switch to something else.

What works best for me doesn’t at all mean it will work best for yourself or my clients for example

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HDL is not that problematic, key is staying off cycle

Love heart – heart care – omega pharma pro will help here niacin flush does nothing imo

Key is the diet and staying off cycle

From new research key needs to be keeping LDL low as that is where risk is associated, HDL up or not.

Fully agree with all of this

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TBJP love heart and heart care if not using are IMO a must.

PLus a good dose 5g daily minimum of TBJP omega 3

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Orange 1 inch when going IM

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Agree with Kuba – lowering the test won’t make any difference now so is pointless n I wouldn’t want to lower it full

Stop any way

I do see a benefit in some dropping var out for halo but as Kuba says I would not be adding it on top. Just adding toxicity n a bit silly imo.

Okay, would dropping the var and add 20mg of halo make me look better and is 20mg enough? Then id try it to be honest, it will help me through these 2 weeks easier aswell i guess.

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It wont make these 2 weeks earlier at all.

some people would defo say it will enhance the look, others say it wont and neither it right nor wrong.

You have to simply add it in, factor in all other things going on and see if you think it was beneficial.

I have done shows weeks apart with Clients – made the switch for 1 and not the other and most have felt it brought a difference but some not.

again we could argue if the drug was real or not or if it was just a time between shows thing.

We could also say that with Halo it adds an aggresion/mental factor in and is it this that is making the difference to how you feel, ability to train and thus look.

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Do you have low libido now ? I have never had a cycle with the purpose of wanting that to happen.

Yes bro I have had troubles with sex drive on cycle hasn’t ever been super super high at periods it is and other times not at all [/quote]
This plus based off what you have said regarding drug use of test/primo/mast makes me think you ma be having E2 to low on cycle – have you tested bloods when your having low to no sex drive.

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I think it depends on where the saturated fats are coming from. There’s nothing wrong with having some saturated fats in the diet, but I would make sure that these are from quality, nutritious sources such as dairy, grass fed meat, coconut and not from highly processed foods or fried foods.

Thanks for the reply Clare.

My saturated fats come from low fat paneer which is my last meal of the day. Would you say that’s a good source? It is dairy but just wondering what you think. [/quote]
I wouldn’t say this is a better source of saturated fat no

For me the type of saturated fat I want is Fri. Grass fed beef , whole eggs etc

I’m not sure we’re it’s coming from in low fat paneer

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