[Hilly]

Agree with Kuba – lowering the test won’t make any difference now so is pointless n I wouldn’t want to lower it full

Stop any way

I do see a benefit in some dropping var out for halo but as Kuba says I would not be adding it on top. Just adding toxicity n a bit silly imo.

Okay, would dropping the var and add 20mg of halo make me look better and is 20mg enough? Then id try it to be honest, it will help me through these 2 weeks easier aswell i guess.

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It wont make these 2 weeks earlier at all.

some people would defo say it will enhance the look, others say it wont and neither it right nor wrong.

You have to simply add it in, factor in all other things going on and see if you think it was beneficial.

I have done shows weeks apart with Clients – made the switch for 1 and not the other and most have felt it brought a difference but some not.

again we could argue if the drug was real or not or if it was just a time between shows thing.

We could also say that with Halo it adds an aggresion/mental factor in and is it this that is making the difference to how you feel, ability to train and thus look.

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Do you have low libido now ? I have never had a cycle with the purpose of wanting that to happen.

Yes bro I have had troubles with sex drive on cycle hasn’t ever been super super high at periods it is and other times not at all [/quote]
This plus based off what you have said regarding drug use of test/primo/mast makes me think you ma be having E2 to low on cycle – have you tested bloods when your having low to no sex drive.

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I think it depends on where the saturated fats are coming from. There’s nothing wrong with having some saturated fats in the diet, but I would make sure that these are from quality, nutritious sources such as dairy, grass fed meat, coconut and not from highly processed foods or fried foods.

Thanks for the reply Clare.

My saturated fats come from low fat paneer which is my last meal of the day. Would you say that’s a good source? It is dairy but just wondering what you think. [/quote]
I wouldn’t say this is a better source of saturated fat no

For me the type of saturated fat I want is Fri. Grass fed beef , whole eggs etc

I’m not sure we’re it’s coming from in low fat paneer

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Agree with Kuba – lowering the test won’t make any difference now so is pointless n I wouldn’t want to lower it full
Stop any way

I do see a benefit in some dropping var out for halo but as Kuba says I would not be adding it on top. Just adding toxicity n a bit silly imo.

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See here

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Try posting pic again

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Sub q – Trt blood work results

3 weeks at 250mg

Seems the raw is a little under dosed. This runs in line with last bloods I did myself and some others seen.

Free test and androgen index is very good showing potential benefits to the subQ approach

E2 is no different to a normal cruise set up done IM at same dose.

So this confirms with what I’ve seen on others bloods doing same thing.

There doesn’t seem to be any additional benefit in controlling E2 from jabbing SubQ

Results

Testosterone – 35.7
E2 – 233
Free Test – 1.15
Free androgen index – 321
Prolactin – 239

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Monday – no cardio done as Arilena was up very early

All meals in

Trained arms n abs – decent session but was rushed as had to be back

Curls to head SS rope PD – 3 x 12-15 Reps. last one to failure

Ez cable curl – x 8, x 14f, x 8f
Ez push downs – x 8, x 15f, x 9F

1 arm cable curl – x 8, x 12f, x 9F
1 arm tri PD – x 14f, x 9F

DB curls – x 14f with 2 drop sets
Oh rope extensions- x 12 with 2 drop sets

An crunches – 4 x 20 reps

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Very person depending IMO as for all of my years of use nothing has ever really made that much if a difference in terms of libido.

If I had to make a suggestion it would be test and masteron with some proviron.

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I always go with MWF for ease and find no issues with this approach for myself and clients.

In reality I think there is very little difference between this and EOD if any different at all

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Sunday – complete rest day – no cardio, no training and just some work with client Hamish competing at his first show of the season and he took second as is first time out in open BB so super happy here.

See competed yesterday in Norway taking class win and overall so great weekend for clients

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Sat – 6/4 – Cardio done

busy day with work and clients training/posing.

All meals in bar last one as I went out fro a few drinks.

Training was good – Strength still remains pretty dam good

Rope pull over – 3 x 12-15 reps – last one to failure
1 arm lat focused PD – x 8, x 11F, x 8f same weight both sets
Chest support T bar row – x 6, x 6, x 10F, x 14F Back off
Seated cable upper back row – x 8, x 13F
1 arm HS row – x 15, 14F
Shrugs – x 12F, x 10F

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Yeh, as above dont worry about the small things like this.

One day were your moving more simply burns a little more kcal – unless your running a marathon its really irrelevant

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Yeh i fully agree with the move to growing slowly also

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Fully agree with J.

Im the same, Low E2 really hits me hard so unless im running into a show i always have my test higher

Thanks for the reply Peter! Always great advice. If you Was running 300 primo where would your test be in that situation 2:1 so 400 test 300 primo? [/quote]

Well it would depend on my goal at the time.

As if I was in prep I would want my E2 lower so I may have test at 300mg

if I was growing then my test may be 5-600

But this is just me personally and very different for every one 🙂[/quote]

Would you need this lower when dieting because you want to hold less water retention bro? When estrogen is higher you always hold more water and when dieting you want to hold less water so you can see what’s water loss and what’s fat loss etc etc[/quote]
Lower E2 is better for fat loss

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