[Hilly]

Hi guys. I did 2 blood let’s within the space of 2 weeks and it brought my levels down to 180. I think I’ll do another blood let and start taking vital support to control?

Thanks

this makes alot of sense to me for sure

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[Hilly]

this all looks very well thought out and like alot of time has gone into it – if blood work is good alongside this then its perfect.

Just need to make sure your putting this much effort into all other areas and ticking them off daily and you should see superb progress in all areas.

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Fully agree with the above – if this suits your day and you get all your food in comfortably then thats fine

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to utlise a free meal the best IMO would be to put it the night before a weaker body part bud. It will then fuel the following session.

However if your not in a prep phase, have something good quality every 2 weeks that is untracked with family or friends and its not slowing progress down for the current goal then there is 0 to feel guilty of IMO.

On the other hand you never need to have an off plan meal – Can always just high day etc

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Clare nailed this – However its honestly quite rare I find general people dont recover from training unless there is a hormone issue.

This area is IMO way to focused on lately and over analysed for alot of people

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It very much depends were the E2 sides are and what’s needed to bring it down.

Personally I would then go 400mg test, 200mg mast and 100mg primo – giving you the same total dose as your last cycle and check bloods at week 5-6

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tuesday – Rest day and once again Arilena was up at the crack of dawn – Im going to start getting up at 4:30am to get cardio in before she wakes – I just worry I wake her up even earlier but we shall see.

So all meals in today but it has been a bit of a nightmare day – Myself and Arilena Mum agreed once this dummy went then we would just go without and this morning she lost it so today has been a tough day lol.

fair few melt downs and she refused point blank to nap and just cried for 30 minutes bless her.

So ive had to make sure she has been fully distracted all day which TbF has been good fun – 2 different soft plays, a walk and then we had tea in the car as she loves to sit in the passenger side with dad and eat

amazingly she went to sleep without any issues so the first time in her life she hasn’t slept with her dummy and I expected it to be a disaster. Buzzing I am.

2moro – will be cardio – shoulders/chest – busy work day

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what time of day are you pinning? Its not post workout is it as if you jab post training etc your always likely to bleed when BP is higher

Hi Peter,

I always try to inject around the same time work allowing. So always morning time, within the first hour of waking.

Taking megs advice – today’s lat injection was a success, no blood and not as much site pain/post shot numbness as I would have thought.

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perfect – lats re my fave site –

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Cardio up – 45 minutes on wake – 15 minutes PWO would be my move with this set up and goal

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Test and mast for me here would be great option

Low dose of npp or tren could go a long way as a combo if you can tolerate it well again depending on your risk / reward ratio.

Test mast gh slin is going to be still the best here imo especially gh and slin added to mix giving you plenty of synergy and keeping you leaner if you used it correctly

Fully agree with kuba here.

If you felt great on those doses and had great results then I would be running 500mg test but with 300mg mast on top

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Exactly as J and Kuba said for most.

I dont tend to see much of a difference in terms of Mood however for me

joints become very sore especially my knees

Sex drive takes a big dip and ability to maintain an erection at times.

water retention

Sensitive right nipple –

Cheers guys really great advice! Another question do you find with clients when using masteron in some cases it doesn’t touch E2 at all. I’m my case I was using 300mg of each and my estrogen was sky high [/quote]
yes in quite a few – mast tends to prevent sides from E2 in alot but doesn’t seem to lower it in a fair few.

Primo and Eq work much better at directly lowering E2 IME

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ive never experiences inconsistency like this no -0 every time I run tren I know I am running tren and get all the same sides dose depending

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Monday – No weight taken and no cardio done as Arilena was up at 5:20 am FFs

All meals in

Trained delts/arms/chest as only got 4 sessions in this last 7 days

1 arm side laterals – x 15, x 12F, x 10F with a drop set

Rope curl to head SS rope PD – 4 x 12-15 reps – last 1 to failure
Ez cable curl – x 8, x 8, x 9F
Oh EZbar extensions – x 8, x8, x 8F
Seated Db curls – x 8, x 8, x 7F
1 arm Tri PD – x 8, x 8, x 12F

Seated chest press – x 15, x 12, x 10, x 8F with 3 drop sets

No PWO cardio either as had to be back for Arilena

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what time of day are you pinning? Its not post workout is it as if you jab post training etc your always likely to bleed when BP is higher

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Fully agree with the above – I dont think i am yet to work with any one that has not lost there cycle by the time they have come to being show conditioned

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