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Sounds like massive over thinking to me TBH – especially considering the effects on health markers from steroids for most are minimal if at all.

could you do this – possibly – how effective would it be I have no idea as I have never heard of any BB adding in direct estrogen to allow for more primo use – now this doesn’t mean it wont work it just doesn’t make much sense to me.

Driving primo up IMO seems to put as much stress on HDL as any other steroid does in terms of infection stuff IMO.

Its very hard to answer this question for myself as the thought process just doesn’t make sense to me at all based on all I know but maybe some one else has more thoughts

I do feel one just has to accept that if they want to abuse steroids no matter the complex way they feel they can negate side effects there are going to be side effects and impact on bloods and there is just no way around that – how much of an impact is person depending and very minimal for alot of people.

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Sat – weight 215.5lb so come up a little.

Cardio done

all meals going in

travelled to see my mate and catch up with a couple of clients in person at UF derby –

Very good good as expected – was pretty busy but so much kit it wasn’t an issue.

back

Rope pull over – x 10, x 10, x 12F
1 arm PD – x 6F, x 12F
Chest supported upper back row – x 9F, x 14F
1 arm low row – x 6F, x 18F
Mag grip pull down – x 15, x 15F, x 13F

Very good session – strength was good, Pumps were good and a very enjoyable session to

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Hiya bud. This client pins Monday and Thursday. Always gets bloods done on the following Monday.

I have bloods from him 6 months prior running the same dose of test and it being pretty much double, but using another lab. Same injection protocol and same testing time.

The only variable is the syringes he was using last time were insulin pins, and now he is using normal barrels. I don’t think that’s going to make that much of a drastic difference even if it means you’re getting a touch more oil whilst using the slin pins, as nothing is getting stuck in the barrel compared to a regular syringe + blue.[/quote]

you could argue the other stuff was over dosed or this batch may be under dosed.

What I have come to realise is there is so much variance to blood work its almost pointless trying to gauge things. As it can drive you insane and has done me for a very long time.

I log all clients bloods – brand and result in a document to keep track of what labs seem to be good at a time and what dont – in the last 6 months I cant remember seeing anything that looked bad from any lab in truth –

ive seen 3 clients bloods all using the same test from the same supplied bought with the same week – 2 great results. – one super low. After we went round in circles for ages turned out he might of missed a jab.

In general everything I have seen from ROHM in the last 6 months has been superb – prior this it was very mixed

this was all from test E [/quote]

Yeah I totally agree. Paralysis by analysis sometimes I guess. It will drive you insane looking into each case as there is sometimes no definitive answer.

Thanks bud. [/quote]
I have spent my life doing this lmao and am really trying to get away from it but in this game its almost impossible lol.

As an example ive just had another client come back – 137 Test level using ROHM on 450mg test e

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Hey

So the E2 range on bloods is 11-43 – your at 137 so very high indeed.

Now E2 is important in many ways and having it higher is not a bad thing at all in general for us. However to me yours is very high indeed so personally I would be looking to bring this down a bit.

You have have a couple of options.

1 – Drop the test and NPP down – switch the mast for primo and make sure you splitting injections MWF – this may well bring it down a fair bit

2 – switch the mast for EQ which in general has a much stronger AI effect and you may get away with leaving drugs as they are –

3 – using an Ai for simplicity but I would not go with this.

Now the counter argument for changes is that if your getting no high E2 sides at all then arguably its not a worry and if you feel great then you can certainly just let it ride likely with no concerns at all

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everthing looks fine – Test is in mid range – going on Testosterone would make no sense to me at all if fertility is the focus

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Friday – Rest day and super busy day

I had to do way to much stuff on top of all the usual work I do on a Friday which hs made it Drag and im behind on meals but is what it is.

cardio wasn’t done this AM so will be done tonight.

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Hiya bud. This client pins Monday and Thursday. Always gets bloods done on the following Monday.

I have bloods from him 6 months prior running the same dose of test and it being pretty much double, but using another lab. Same injection protocol and same testing time.

The only variable is the syringes he was using last time were insulin pins, and now he is using normal barrels. I don’t think that’s going to make that much of a drastic difference even if it means you’re getting a touch more oil whilst using the slin pins, as nothing is getting stuck in the barrel compared to a regular syringe + blue.[/quote]
you could argue the other stuff was over dosed or this batch may be under dosed.

What I have come to realise is there is so much variance to blood work its almost pointless trying to gauge things. As it can drive you insane and has done me for a very long time.

I log all clients bloods – brand and result in a document to keep track of what labs seem to be good at a time and what dont – in the last 6 months I cant remember seeing anything that looked bad from any lab in truth –

ive seen 3 clients bloods all using the same test from the same supplied bought with the same week – 2 great results. – one super low. After we went round in circles for ages turned out he might of missed a jab.

In general everything I have seen from ROHM in the last 6 months has been superb – prior this it was very mixed

this was all from test E

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Personally I just take two days of total rest just for peace of mind, to make sure you’re getting an accurate rested reading.

I’m sure it would make minimal difference vs. Resistance training though.

x 2 TBH

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great stuff from Clare and fully agree with J – the longer you stay leaner the better this will be on top of the other things

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Thurs – New low 213.5lb – bigger drop than expected – look much dryer today.

No cardio done due to weight drop and fact its legs – I had a client driving up to train legs which made it a great session but lasted longer than normal.

Lay ham curls – x 8, x 15F, x FOURs set
extensions – x 8, x 16F
Leg press – x 8, x 10F – up a little in strength here
1 leg hip press – x 8, x 10F
1 leg ham curl – x 8, x 10F with a drop set to failure plus partials
Adductor – x 10, x 10, x 18F

higher carb day today – will be 500-600g

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Wednesday- 215.25. New low I believe n should keep trending down this week

Cardio done
All meals in

Trained chest / delts today as got client traveling 2moro for legs

Seated DB lateral – 5 x 12-15 reps

Incline chest press – x 8, x 7f, x 13f
Seated chest press – x 8, x 9F with 2 drop sets
Pec dec – x10, x 12f, x8f
Dips – x 20, x 19f, x12f

Abs

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