[Hilly]

Most of my clients who have had this done are back in the gym doing legs very careful after week 1-2 based on there personal recovery and. Back doing some form of upper body training weeks 3-4

Just adjusting exercises so there is no stress on that area – stretching etc

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[Hilly]

Sat – trained delts instead of back as had physio on back yesterday – so will move training back to 2moro morning before I get Arilena back.

All meals in no issues – hunger is high – super happy.

Training – all sets listed work sets

Cable Y raises – x 15, x 12F
Standing machine laterals – x 10, x 10, x 8f, x 15F
Machine press – x 12, x10, x 8F – I may have to take these out again – its just constant issues no matter what I use with the torn pec side.
Rear pec dec – x 10, x 10, x 12F
Seated DB front raises – x 15, x 12F, x 8F
Lateral machine – FST 7

calfs – seated – x 10, x 10, x 9F, x back off x 15
1 leg toe press – x 15, x 15, x 12F

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[Hilly]

Thyroid looks fine

I would be checking hormone markers and kidney markers

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[Hilly]

Thank you guys so much

What type testosterone should I take?

I’ve also heard that depending on what type of test you take at once can crush your system

Test E

The last bit makes no sense ? All AAS will shut your natural hormones down

Have you watched the educational stuff to get your head around all of this ?

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[Hilly]

What type of GH are you using ?

Have you had any bloods done

How are you dosing the gh

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[Hilly]

Rest day today

Cardio done

Busy work day

All meals in

Physio appointment

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[Hilly]

I would watch the educational stuff on first cycles on here.

You can defo hire some one to look at blood work – a fair few of us offer this service on here I believe.

I personally would look to 300mg test for 8 weeks – get bloods done and then asses progress, how you feel and get more blood work done and you can then base your next move on here – I.E add primo –

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[Hilly]

thursday – another good day – all meals in.

Trained chest/additional delts.

Seated Db laterals – x 10f, x 8f, x 15F
Y raises – x 10F, x 15F

Seated chest press – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 8F, x 6F, x 13F
Incline chest press – x 10, x 10F, x 7F, x 15F
pec dec – 3 x 12-15 reps all stopping just shy of failure.

Still easing in – Felt good again to train with no niggles or issues.

Rest day 2moro and busy work day

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[Hilly]

Yes as Ryan says we know ranges. But there is no formula etc,

There is allot of variance based on how well your gear is dosed and then genetic variances also

That’s fair. I was thinking since my test naturally is on the lower end of the normal range (according to the NHS) that 150mg pw should give me a good boost to the upper if not slightly over the normal range to take if I decided to hop on trt.[/quote]
thats a solid presumption and its likely going to be correct but only way to know is blood work.

For example I have had clients come to me who are on cycle 250mg per week and due to the gear being under dosed more than likely there test level has been lower than when they were natrural.

I have also seen a client recently come back with only 33 test level from 250mg test which was bought from a pharmacy in turkey – so 150 would likely have him mid range

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[Hilly]

Wednesday – back in at normal meals today and my hunger has been excellent so super happy here.

Eased back in with legs lol – little reduced in volume but not as much as I intended – strength was still decent – just had some energy dips as the session went on as expected with the fasting and 6 days reduced food etc.

Legs

Seated ham curls – x8, x8, x 7F
Extensions – x 10, x 10, x 16F
leg press – x 12, x 12, x 12, x 12 – none to failure here
Hack squats – super slow Neg and pause in hole – x 10, x 15, x 15
lay ham curls – x 8, x 8, x8, x 8F
Adductor – rest paused – x 15/8/4

over the moon today with feeling better.

Some mistakes I feel attributed to this.

not resting for long enough fist and foremost.
not getting adequate water in – school boy error.
Not adapting food sources as food has gone up – i.e switching oats to COR
not getting enough steps in due to how busy I am with work when I dont have Arilena – I have her half the week and this means I have to condense my work into other days and around having her which has been a big change

Stress – I think with myself and Arilena mum breaking up, my dad being ill and me going through the process of buying my own house from myself lol as well as selling 2 of mine and dads houses things have just built up over time which is expected.

Onwards and upwards we go

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[Hilly]

I defo find for most a harder mattress is much better

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[Hilly]

Yes as Ryan says we know ranges. But there is no formula etc,

There is allot of variance based on how well your gear is dosed and then genetic variances also

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[Hilly]

I would wait 4 weeks then run a full PCT

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[Hilly]

Im with Kuba here.

i would either favour test/primo and NPP or test/mast/NPP for overall strength improvements – no real difference to a BB cycle.

Then As Kuba says – when your a competitive athlete looking to Max/push strength for comps orals and other funky stuff come into play or for specific strength training phases but in general these drugs will do the trick.

If you were mapping out a cycle and want a big push at the end then dropping in an oral like oxy or Dbol the last 4-6 weeks will certainly aid in maxing strength progress out –

Hey Peter, could I just enquire…..

Would you potentially swap the NPP in the test/mast/NPP stack for Decanoate if NPP was available? Am I right in assuming that, for this situation Test/Mast/Deca would serve the same goals?

Thank you for the excellent advice as always,

Jon

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Hello bud.

in theory yes it would be a suitable swap – however personally it does seem that some just dont feel great on Normal deca in comparison to NPP – but I cant give you an explanation for this.

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[Hilly]

Tuesday – Weight 228lb – so a good drop of 6-8lb over this rest week.

Fasted all day today so expect a further drop 2moro.

Feeling better overall. Still a chesty cough.

Hungry tonight thats for sure – going to make some changes to food sources moving forward.

Pulling oats from training days for COR
going to use more powders and not try and force all solid meals – as this may be one of the issues

2moro back to normal meal plan and in for legs which will be a reduced session due to time off and fasting today

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