[Hilly]

Thanks Peter that’s what I meant and what’s planned. Starting 100 e2d on my cut phase for 10-12w and later we see how bloods and body go to play. Just still wonder what essentials I need to have next to me IF. What AI good to have to lower/kill estro. I heard if you flying on test for long it’s worth to have HCG to give your FSH LH ‘shot’. But Ryan says is no really needed. So just simply gear and IA.

Cheers guys

I wouldnt want to use an AI either – i would try and play about with your dosing schedule – jabbing every other day or Mon/Wed/Fri will work well at keeping E2 in check – for those super sensitive then dosing daily can help.

I also dont like using HCG on cycle due to E2 spikes and the fact you become desensitised to it over time

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Wednesday – leg day and high day

230lb on wake – so dropped the 5lb from the high day last week over the course if this week.

still chesty and full of cold so overall volume was kept down in the workout and took longer rest between sets

overall a good session – all sets listed are work sets

Lay ham curls – x 12, x 12, x 8F
Extensions – x 12, x 12, x 12, x 12F
Seated ham curl – x 10, x 10, x 10 – all done with a pause in contraction.
banded leg press – x 12, x 12, x 12, x 12
Adductor -x 15, x 15F

Job done -legs battered – knees are still bloody sore.

All meals in no issues – 1 to go

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So it looks like your HPTA axis has not recovered properly.

Did you do any bloods pre taking AAs to see were you were naturally?

You have 2 options –

Move to your next cycle and then run a proper PCT as specified in the sticky here –

re do the PCT properly and see what happens – I personally at your age would favour this option as I would be wanting to look at making sure I could recover this properly and if not then look at accepting this and what it entails.

Its very much a decision you need to make though bud as its your body and you are only young.

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I would not drop to pro/fat -I would simply make sure I was sat at maintain kcal until I could train properly again in both areas – MM and weights

I dont think either peptides will help bone issues TBH

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Hi Peter appreciate your interest. Yes bud my test is in a good range but we are not here for it. Point on who starts juicing just when his test dropped. Bet most guys go gear even same week they touch bar. Plus nowadays I think we getting confused with TRT meaning. Just to make it clear I meant low doses(300-500mg pw)Anyway. Like I said I would like to stay just on test solo so simply I thought to run all times taking care about blood marks and all. Can you please say something more about benefits to do cycles? On Off for how long etc. from my perspective what I see you juicing for weeks later trying to get bloods how was before and again again again. yes it’s true mate not looking to be on stage just spend years in sport general (footie, boxing or other arts) and gym. Which my point now is just get big and strong for myself. What life gonna bring we will see. Maybe more compounds. Maybe one day stage. cannot tell mate. Doing what I am loving so far which is weight.
Yes mate I watched/read media about cycles and all. But like I said so many schools to do it. I am new member here and things are slight diff to other forums etc.
so simply just stick to bloods every few weeks and see what’s going on with your body?
Cheers bro

There is nothing wrong with choosing to do this at all. Long as your happy to stay on test for the foreseeable

in terms of cycle length – its very much personal opinion. – there are no real guidelines – if ones was just running 3-500mg test then you can cycle like this for 12-16-22 weeks and as long as blood work is fine then there is no issues.

Personally I keep my cycles in line with goals.

so if im growing then im on cycle – once I feel this is at and end then I want to cut I will then cut on a low dose and then move the dose back up as I grow.

In general that is a safe way of doing things IMO if your sticking with doses of day 3-500mg – you can run 250mg no issues in reality as a cruise dose IMO and drop any needed body fat so your in a good place to push back up and then increase from there.

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Tuesday – cardio done –

All meals in

spent the day at 2 Halloween parties/soft play and trick or treating with Arilena – so high output on a rest day

Nothing else to note- High day and legs 2moro

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Im with Clare – i would only use these on workout days to unless i was looking to drive specific effects for sporting benefits and even then it would be debatable

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in truth i dont think any of us are in a position to tell you if its ok to take a pre workout based on info provided.

I would take all your advise from your medical professional only as this is some pretty serious stuff and you should only be taking guidance from those with the right k knowledge and experience

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Hello bud.

I would increase the primo to 300mg to bring E2 in range incase this is causing you some issues as it could be that you are very E2 sensitive here – this may also help bring prolactin down.

I would also increase the P5P to 300mg in the short term

Then re asses bloods and how you feel in 4-5 weeks time

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For me i would be going U/L initially and then transitioning into PPL

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with this dosing I personally feel its more about when makes you feel better over anything else.

If you can dose 3/3 then I would just do this but some may feel sleepy from it, which if so I would dose 2, 2iu pre and 2iu pre bed.

i do fully agree with the above tho – IME timing really doesn’t matter the much.

I have done – all pre bed , split AM and Pm, split AM, pre and pre bed and done 1 iu x 5 per day

And cant say ive ever noticed much difference.

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Monday – No cardio done as Arilena was up super early – Dam clocks going back has thrown her sleep off FFS.

All meals in

3 hours in a soft play chasing Arilena im counting as cardio mind.

Trained arms. – Strength was up alot – felt very good the session did.

EZ bar curl to forehead SS with EZ bar push downs – x 15, x 15, x 12F, x 9F

Ez bar curls – x 12, x 12, x 9F
OH cable extensions – x 15, x 15, x 12F

Preacher machine – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 6F
Tricep extension machine – x 10, x 10, x 9F

Standing Db curls – x 10, x10, x 8F
Rope PD – x 15, x 15, x 12F

Job done – no real niggles and this left arm/shoulder/grip issue felt much better after getting it battered in all the right spots last Friday which made me happy.

Rest day 2moro and very busy day with party pants – at a halloween class thing – 11-1 then home in the hope she naps – Halloween party 4-6 then popping to a home Halloween thing for half an hour before I put her to bed. So will be prepping all rest day meals on wake.

cant wait

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Fully agree with Kuba.

way to many people give out advice like this with real no clue.

If you are finding your BP is rising and you cant bring it down with natural supplements like TBJP love heart etc and controlling it through exercise/nutrition then Tel is a very good drug to use.

However it should only be used if its needed IMO

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There can be multiple things at play here but its really something you need to go back to your doctor with and push them to check properly.

Will contact them monday. But anything they should look for? I got my heart checked by ultrasound about a year ago, and not by my own doctor, it was by some specialist because my sister was born with a rare heart disease. And i dont have it, me and whole close family members got checked 5 years ago too.

Could it be stress and overthinking that makes my chin and neck tight? [/quote]
They are a doctor bud – they will know what to look for more than us.

It literally impossible for us to do anything but guess at what may cause it. Were as a doctor can do all the necessary tests.

I have had issues like this in the passed and it was always going from sitting to standing quickly and it was always when very lean – the doctor could never find out why and neither could i.

It just passed – I have had 2-3 spells of this

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