[Hilly]

Hey Liam, I haven’t noticed much increase in libido when using proviron in the past in my experience. What cycle are you running?

At the time of writing it I was only on 120mg test but not 180 test 300 mast I’ve always had libido issues so just thought it could be an option as people say it helps but I seem to try use drugs to fix everything and I probably shouldn’t 😭

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[Hilly]

Monday

Cardio done

Work till 11:30 then had an hour to get training in before I go grab Arilena from nursery

This is why I do arms on a Monday as I can be limited on time

Rope curls SS rope PD – 5 x 12-15 – last 2 to failure

Ez machine – x 12, x 10, x7f with 2 drop sets
Tricep extension – x 12, x 12, x 8f with 2 drop sets

Incline DB curl – x15, x12, x 9F
1 arm tri PD x 12, x12, x7f

Ez bar curl SS OH rope. Done no rest between sets – 4 sets 8-12 reps

Decent workout in 45 mins

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[Hilly]

Agree with J – i would go for Test E and i would split it MWF personally

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Sunday –

Cardio done
All meals in

Trained chest/delts/calfs

Cable Y raises – x 12, x8, x 9F
Standing Db laterals – triple drop set – 2 sets

Pec dec – x 12, x 12, x 12F, x 10F
Seated chess press – x8, x 6, x 5F, x 12F
Incline chest press – x 10/10/8F/5F with a drop set
Dip machine chest focused – x 20, x 15F

1 leg toe press – x 15, x 15, x 12F, x 9F with a drop set

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[Hilly]

Personally i dont ever see much improvement if any from proviron in libido or not that I have ever really noticed.

I would not want to use it year round either

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[Hilly]

Get bloods checked.

Find the cause so you no how to effectively move forward now and also to better plan cycles in the future

This is key info you need to get imo

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[Hilly]

This is always the risk with cycles like this and why they baffle me so much as I see this so often.

Personally I would drop the mast down to 300 alongside the primo and bump the test to 600. Potentially 700 for initial 2-3 weeks to get a faster rise in E2

As nath says it makes no sense having E2 low unless there is a very specific reason

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Saturday

Cardio done

Busy work day

Trained back and was a very good session.

Cable pull over – 3 x 15 to warm up n activate lats

Overhand pull down – x 8, x6f, x14f
Dorian HS row upper back focus – x 12, x12f x x7f
1 arm pull down – x 8, x8, X9F
Chest supported over back row – x 10, x10, x 7f with a drop set
1 arm standing HS rows – x20f, x16f

Hypers – x 8/10/12/15

Job done and a very good workout

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[Hilly]

There can be multiple things at play here but its really something you need to go back to your doctor with and push them to check properly.

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very person depending based on how you aromatise as J says.

Personally I would start

200 test, 200 primo and 100 app – then test bloods at week 5-6 and evaluate

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agree with the above – shouldnt be any real issues.

We cant really say you can abuse/use these drugs safely in reality but in terms of how it will effect blood work ive never seen this dose of either drug have any negative effects

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Friday – Rest day

Cardio done
All meals in
Free meal tonight –
Busy work day

nothing exciting to note

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[Hilly]

Agreed

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I’d be worried about the qualify if 200mg did nothing

50-100mg is perfect for focus with no real effect to appetite

If I take 200 I’m super focus but don’t think or want to eat at all.

I’ve been using regularly for several years now n this has always been the case for myself and others.

I’ve never heard of any one using 400mg tbh

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Thurs- delts / chest. Woke with an awful knot in my trap so tiday has been painful lol

All normal training day meals in

Cardio done

Trained delts / chest as best as I could

Calf’s – seated – 4 x 10 reps

Seated lateral machine – x 15, x 12, x 11f , X9F
Shoulder press – x 15, x15, x15. Nothing to failure due to neck
Rear pec Dec – x 10, x8, x7f
Seated DB front raises – x 12 x 8, x7f
Seated DB laterals fst7

Pec Dec – 4 x 8-12
Decline press – x8, x6f, x8f

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