[Hilly]

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I cant see the bloods could you type them out please or repost in a different format

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Sunday and Monday have both been rest days – I seem to have hurt my left bicep – it was defo a bad idea training those 4 days on the bounce – I new it was going to be but lesson learned.

So I will be resting 2moro also.

I will then train

Wed. – legs
Thurs – Shoulders/Chest
Friday rest
Sat back
Sunday – arms

I have physio booked in Thurs night to get it looked at also.

Annoying but my own fault.

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Clare nailed this – couldnt agree more.

Just focus on having fun and training as hard as you can in the gym. Keep the surplus up and that scale moving consistently and you will grow

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Saturday –

Cardio done incline treadmill 30 minutes

All meals in

Some house stuff to sort for my house and a house me and dad are selling that took up a chunk of time on top of work so been a busy day.

Trained back – Was a very good session but I defo felt it in my tendons having trained 4 days on the bounce so ill need to change this.

Cable pull over – 4 sets working up to a failure set of 8
Overhand pull downs – x 8, x 8, x 7F
chest supported row – x 8, x 8, x 9F, BO x 12F with partials
1 arm Pull down – x 10, x 10, x 8F
Cable per back row with a mag grip handle – x 15, x 15, x 15F, x 13F

Great session, strength was good as was pump and connection especially through the issue side

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Friday – Am cardio done plus abs

Busy busy work day today –

Trained chest/delts – not a bad session – I really need to start making time to get to UF to hit this TBH

Seated side delts – x 20F, x 9F, x 12F , x 16F

pec dec – true 3 second negative – 4 x 10-12 reps – hitting failure on last 2 sets

Seated chest press – 5 x 6 – failure just last 1. – all were very hard work sets

Incline chest press – x 15F, x 9F, x 20F

Cable fly – 4 sets of 10 adjusting angle on each set

a decent workout – trained in lloyds were I was working so some different kit and layout – it makes the day run much smoother but the atmosphere sucks some what but so does training chest for me lol

Back 2moro in UF which will be fun then out for tea with the boys which I am looking forward to

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IME you should of tested bloods 3-4 weeks post PCT and you should be seeing LH and FSH in range – if not then you need to look at a more aggressive PCT

Have you had bloods done to gauge recovery and current hormonal state

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I think beginners should spend the majority of their time in a surplus and growing, only tidying up when absolutely necessary. I would go by the visual look, as well as performance, appetite and digestion as to when it’s time to pull back. Then I’d get as lean as possible in the first cut to prime the body again for another decent push up. If you take things slow and steady you’ll be able to get a long run in a surplus before needing to diet again.

x 2 fully agree

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As above – its finding what works best for you and what helps improve your performance, progress physically and makes you feel the best day to day

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Have no experience with a coach nor roids other than theoretic but saying something like that when it comes to something as serious and potentially life altering as steroids seems ridicolous to me.

could I ask what would be life altering between 100mg of primo and 300mg primo ? Considering its one of if not the safest AAS we can use.

I mean if he takes more it may alter his life in becoming more jacked and make more progress but I cant see any real negative sides that would alter his life by going from 100-300mg primo??

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The reality is your not Imo going to notice much adding in 100mg per week as stated above and by the current coach.

yes its all well and good saying start low and work up but there has to be some form of common sense and direction here – is it worth spending 4-6 weeks on the lowest possible dose for the lowest possible rate of gain when in realty you can go to 300mg for likely 0 less toxicity and get much more progress.

For me when im ON I want to be making significant progress as my body is shut down and it is being taxed.

considering a female dose is 30-60mg per week I would have no interest in dosing just 100mg if I was going ON cycle nor would I recommend that dose to a client – 200mg is usually my first step and this is alongside 250-300mg test –

So I also see no issue with coach recommendations –

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It tends to be carpal tunnel syndrome – so is a build of of fluid within this area stressing it and causing the issue.

Sometimes as we adapt to the gh and water balances out it goes away

We can look to use different GH to see if the one being used currently is causing more water retention than others – for example Chinese generics in general cause more fluid than pharma

Yes it will go away once use is stopped -I have never heard of it staying around on any one

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thursday -Post high day – usually this is a rest day but as above – this has now changed

Trained arms today – Cardio was 25 minutes on treadmill while Arilena was sleeping.

busy work day – lots of personal stuff going on TBH so today has been much more stressful than is usually is and the build up lately is starting to take its toll a little but this will alleviate soon.

All work done

all meals done

Arms – was just a random session – I wasn’t in the best of moods and it was later on in a local gym which was busy and made my mood worse but ended up being a decent workout for what it was

EZ cable curls to forehead superset with EZ cable bar push downs – 7 total sets – last 4 being hard sets and last 2 to failure

EZ bar cable curl from ground Superset with OH rope extensions – 3 hard sets of 10 reps – failing on the last one.

Seated incline DB curl – 3 x 8-10 – Failing on the last 1 with a drop set

Seated machine Tri extensions – 3 x 8 reps – all hard sets failing on last one.

1 arm Bicep concentration curls – 3 x 10-15 reps – Failing on last 2

Rope PD – 3 x 15-20 reps -Failing on last 2

Toe press – 6 x 8-10 total sets – last 4 being to failure

Very busy work day 2moro – Training chest/shoulders –

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Wed – 228-229lb – Same – legs and high day

20 minutes cardio on treadmill plus abs while Arilena slept at 5am

Meal 1 was at 6am before she woke and meal 7 is just going in now at 9am – 1100g carbs hit no issues

all work done – Arilena to nursery and picked up for tea and some time chasing each other around the house pre bed which was fun post legs haha –

We adjusted the leg session a tad simply for fun and to ruin each other – client Martin who I train with really upped his game and kicked my arse on the leg press.

Lay ham curls – x 8, x 8, x 8 – pyramid up – x 9F – up in weight, x 13 BO – up in weight
Seated ham curl Rest pause – x 11F, x 5F, x 3F – up in weight
Extensions – lower reps this week – Sets of 8 till a super hard failure set of 9 reps – 5 sets total – then aback off with load on end of range x 13F

Leg press- so I did – 1PPS x 10, 2 PPS x 20, 3PPS x 30, 4PPS x 40 and 5PPS x 50 and then died – I did go for 6PPS and got 18 before my legs caved in. -this is a little more than around a year ago when I tried this.
Martin got all 60 out of 6PPS and he was in a bad way after LMAO.

Adductors – 3 x 20 reps

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Thanks @Hilly , this is great detail. Last jab (enantate) was early May. Waited for drugs to clear then ran dr deans pct and finished3/4 weeks ago.
The blood test and the fertility test were done within 5 days of each other 3-4 weeks after stopping pct

So its safe to say this should continue to get better and better – with fertility clients I would be advising to check again in 8 weeks time before I was starting to draw conclusions and any potential worry 🙂

This really is a patience game.

For example mine went.

sub 1million
8 million after 16 weeks
13 million after 6 months
15-17 million after 9 months
conception after 12 – 13 months.

I just had a client fall after just 8 weeks go a protocol on TRT

ive had many many fall between these numbers – in truth and it was hard for me to accept at first we have very little control over this – all we can do is try our best to improve our numbers, not over think and stress over the process as this is terrible for it and then let will/luck/god play there part 🙂

In terms of medical literature – average conception time for a normal couple is 90% within 1 year – so thats 12 months of trying if you both have had completely healthy productive systems for the full 12 months.

when looking at fertility studies using HMG and HCG were people have had ongoing issues average was 9-18 months if I remember right.

NHS wont usually even consider testing you until you have been trying for 12 months.

We are all very much in a rush those of us in this game like anything else in life and this is something we dont have control over like we do in other areas

All the very best 🙂

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