[Hilly]

Im with kuba here, if you have issues with sleep apnea etc due to weight you want this cycle to be as dry as possible so sticking with either primo/mast or a combination makes most sense.

We cant really tell you which is best as it very much depends on how you respond individually.

Personally I would go 400mg Test, 300mg primo – I would run this for 5-6 weeks – asses progress, weight gain etc and then makes moves from there.

I would also be getting bloods done at week 6 to see were my E2 was and potentially looking to keep this close to the range as possible to keep water weight down.

Not sure if it dare ask but what does matching carbs with lantus mean ?

Hey thanks for the reply! Definitely will check my E2 along the way and adjust my ratios if I have to. And I meant increasing lantus as my carbs go up, if they’re high enough considering novo pre/postwo as well. Or is that not a good idea?[/quote]

it is a good idea if needed –

what you have to think about first and foremost is why you are actually using the insulin – both lantus and fast – what are you trying to achieve.

Which is why I asked the question – As there is no fitting lantus to carb total for example – its about first deciding why your using it and then adjusting the dosing and approach based on that alongside body feedback.

Like any other drug 🙂[/quote]

Ah I see, thanks! I want to do lantus for it’s synergy with gh, then as my carbs go up increase it for better nutrient uptake. Same with novo – when my carbs are high enough implement them for better nutrient uptake around my training

[/quote]
so the question is

if your using it for enhanced nutrient intake and to work in synergy with the GH

And not to control BG

then why are you waiting for your carbs to hit a certain number – ? What sense is there in this if you can bring about these effects now ?

See my thought pattern/point here 🙂

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[Hilly]

Friday – super busy day today as currently on train to London for the Tru expo with the team which im really looking forward

Means resting all weekend – which is fine so todays gym session was combined back/arms/chest

cardio done. – 25 mins on stairs plus abs

Super busy work day –

Training is nothing much to report as was in a different gym and total mix match.

Aj wants me checking in on tuesday – if im completely honestly I am feeling fat and I dont like it but this is always my issue (due to being a fad kid) and I need to just ignore it lol.

Food is no issue
Training is good
Health is good

im getting old – if im going to make a huge n noticeable jump its now or never 🙂

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[Hilly]

Im with kuba here, if you have issues with sleep apnea etc due to weight you want this cycle to be as dry as possible so sticking with either primo/mast or a combination makes most sense.

We cant really tell you which is best as it very much depends on how you respond individually.

Personally I would go 400mg Test, 300mg primo – I would run this for 5-6 weeks – asses progress, weight gain etc and then makes moves from there.

I would also be getting bloods done at week 6 to see were my E2 was and potentially looking to keep this close to the range as possible to keep water weight down.

Not sure if it dare ask but what does matching carbs with lantus mean ?

Hey thanks for the reply! Definitely will check my E2 along the way and adjust my ratios if I have to. And I meant increasing lantus as my carbs go up, if they’re high enough considering novo pre/postwo as well. Or is that not a good idea?[/quote]
it is a good idea if needed –

what you have to think about first and foremost is why you are actually using the insulin – both lantus and fast – what are you trying to achieve.

Which is why I asked the question – As there is no fitting lantus to carb total for example – its about first deciding why your using it and then adjusting the dosing and approach based on that alongside body feedback.

Like any other drug 🙂

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[Hilly]

tren can and does show as E2 on blood results.

So this is not an accurate reading I imagine 🙂

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[Hilly]

Morning bud

So your HPTA axis has recovered – your test is low but this may very well keep increasing over time – it is early days.

LDL is a little high – if not taking TBJP heart care and love heart add this in plus possible additional HIT cardio – its not overly high but we always want this in range

All else looks super healthy to me

Thanks mate, anything to be concerned about regarding eosinophil?[/quote]
not to me or i would of said so 🙂

its 0.04 over – so this wouldnt worry me personally but i am not a doctor

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[Hilly]

Im with kuba here, if you have issues with sleep apnea etc due to weight you want this cycle to be as dry as possible so sticking with either primo/mast or a combination makes most sense.

We cant really tell you which is best as it very much depends on how you respond individually.

Personally I would go 400mg Test, 300mg primo – I would run this for 5-6 weeks – asses progress, weight gain etc and then makes moves from there.

I would also be getting bloods done at week 6 to see were my E2 was and potentially looking to keep this close to the range as possible to keep water weight down.

Not sure if it dare ask but what does matching carbs with lantus mean ?

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[Hilly]

Morning bud

So your HPTA axis has recovered – your test is low but this may very well keep increasing over time – it is early days.

LDL is a little high – if not taking TBJP heart care and love heart add this in plus possible additional HIT cardio – its not overly high but we always want this in range

All else looks super healthy to me

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[Hilly]

thurs – Weight 231 – just 2lb up from high day – Woke up super hungry, no real gas and no real bloat – very pleased.

Rest day today
Arilena around this morning and after nursery as usual.

Busy work day

No cardio this morning so will do Sunday – was up to late with meals and podcast so didn’t wake till 5:30 annoyingly which means I loose my chance to do cardio as Arilena wakes at 6 or before and charl goes to work at 6:30

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Wednesday – High day. – leg day – Weight 228-229lb still.

All 7 meals in – 1000g and digestion was once again superb –

busy work day

Legs – adjusted the layout a little and it seemed to work out better overall for performance so will stick with this.

lay ham curl – x 9F, x 12F – up in weight
Seated ham curl – Rest pause – x 16F, x 4F, x 2F – first set was 2 high in reps and ruined me – will up weight next time –
Extensions – x 13F, x 16F – up in reps
Leg press – work sets – x 8, x 8, x 12F – up in weight here and felt great – x 25 piston reps with no rest as back off.
1 leg leg press – x 8, x 8, x 8 – up in weight –
Seated leg press feet close – FST4 – 10 seconds between sets in lockout- increased to 10 reps from 8 – x 10, x 10, x 10, x 6F

Ruined in a very good way

So as can see I did an additional exercise pre leg press with every other variable the same and still made a good leap forward in weight so this is what I mean by adjusted layout seemed to work better – knees felt great so will roll with this

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How this rebound has gone

202lb to 229lb in 10-11 weeks

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[Hilly]

Soo as you get close to 6 and your doing everything you can right I would be puling back.

The first and most important point here is simply do not get to fat –

Second for me is keeping digestion and health as optimal as possible.

Keeping daily output up – steps and cardio always in a good spot.

hydration is important for accurate readings.

Utilising supplements such as TBJP INSURE

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[Hilly]

tuesday – weight holding around 228-229lb.

Was meant to train today but things came up so it has turned into a rest day – Mum is now out of hospital as of this evening which is fantastic news and feeling loads better so this has made my day and relieved some of the external stress I have going on at the minute.

Cardio was done out walking pushing Arilena up and down hills in her pram lol.

Steps very high today as been chasing her around alot of the day.

Training day meals to meal 4 then reverted to rest day meals 5/6

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[Hilly]

Hi hilly

Love following this!

Do you think this kind of sensible rebound you have done now is much more suited to someone who struggles to really put in size/weight? Or would you advise a more aggressive rebound for someone like that?

In truth its super person depending – although it totally sucked initially I must say I feel this is one of the better ways to rebound and be super controlled for most of us.

It isn’t far off what I do, I always hugely focus on body comp and keeping clients lean post show as you all see from my instagram.

However personally I move all clients or in general to an elevated cruise dose – my thinking is We are going to grow no matter what from food and the whole post show effect – I then want health markers down in range ASAP while this process plays out so we can get to growing ASAP.

Now for me its a little different – for 1 AJ obviously favours a heavier rebound and it worked but also my own body is weird and it handles drugs very well (ive had 2 doctors tell me this lol) and you can see this from blood work posted previously – so in this instance it makes sense to drive that period higher knowing my blood work was great and was going to be great – this is rarely to never the case for others.

So for others it would now mean an extended cruise phase just as training is coming back to 100% and your itching to go go go which I dont like mentally or physically.

the other thing is – several of my very serious higher level clients all said the same thing – hilly this rebound has been mega for you but dont think for 1 second your doing that shit to us – we are hungry enough in prep.

We re as for me its different – I am always striving to learn new things and push myself mentally so riding out the cravings and hunger for 2 months post show was just another challenge like prep – it sucked but I was learning and challenging myself so I was ok with that. Mentally most would not want to nor in reality be able to IME.

Hope this makes sense

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[Hilly]

Hey Bud, is 5 days standard abstinence prior to taking a fertility sample?

3-5 days i believe is recommended – i would always say 4-5 personally – a little longer is defo going to give you better data [/quote]

Thank you as always bud [/quote]
my pleasure bud

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[Hilly]

I would try a hair removal cream for sensitive skin and see how that feels. Use some aloe vera gel afterwards too to soothe the skin and add some moisture back.

x 2 here – i am a huge fan of the pink veet – been using it years. Just dont leave it on to long.

However it sounds like you have the most sensitive skin in the world so you may have to be careful here.

My first move would be to purchase a peanut trimmer – yes that is the actual name lol – works super well for body hair removal

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