[Hilly]

Blood work here – healthy as usual thanks to the TBJP supplement range

Taken at week 7 of this rebound as it ends

2 weeks post 4 days in Ibiza

Been on cycle since November

TBJP supplements really do make all the difference

Only real issue is HDL which was totally expected n normal.

Super happy indeed

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[Hilly]

I just have water pre fasted cardio and take my Join-In drink, with other joint supps afterwards.

Peak Hydration, Glutamine, Beta alanine and Creatine would be fine for an intra-workout when weight training.

I like to keep my fasted cardio, fasted and only have water, but you could use Peak Hydration here too.

Im with Clare here

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What is the range on the labs bud ?

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I can’t work the reason why people say t4 has to be taken With T3 . The reason I’m told is to stop suppression of one’s own Thyroid ?

My reasoning is 2 fold.

T4 controls some mechanisms within the body itself so having healthy levels is important.

any proper thyroid specialist and thyroid replacement clinic all use a mixture of both to maintain healthy thyroid – so if the specialists across the world feel this is best then I bow to there knowledge

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Friday – weight 223.5lb –

Up early as usual to work – then cardio and abs

Very busy work day today as per.

Trained at a local gym not UF as I still am training around this injury.

Chest/delts and calfs today.

Seated calf raise – x 8F, x 8F, x 15F with a drop set – hitting these 4 times a week now

Standing DB laterals – x 21F, x 8F, x 14F
Y raises on a cable set up -= these are more rehab work to help with the injury and lat/shoulder issue -3 x 12-15

Cable chest press – all work sets – x 12, x 12, x 10, x 9F
Incline press machine – 3 second negative – x 10, x 8, x8, x 7F – all hard work sets
Seated chest press – x 8, x8, x8, x 8,x7F – all very hard work sets

Just playing it safe around this injury but so far this week its caused me no issues so I can continue to push.

Back will be interesting 2moro

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Forgot to post these from Tuesday

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273 , feel gd , was a great weekend.

Im sticking on my cruise as I need to clear out from anabolics , but after this weekend I will chuck in the gh and insulin needed to do the job , but this weekend I’m at silverstone for the f1 and I need to be able to walk , once that gh and insulin goes in , the 7 pounds of dogshit water goes on immediately and that’s me 280 and locked up from the water , but I know it’s need must if I’m gonna get this done , I have been putting it off and putting it off , so I can stay a little more mobile , but I posed Friday and Corinnes words “ you are not even remotely close to your biggest , you need to do what you know needs to be done, if you want that size “

I will clear out , and then be ready to go after it

i just love Corrine – Straight as an arrow always – just what we all need

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Most of us sleep less when dieting. Body is more efficient so sleeps better.

Also lower food / carbs keep serotonin levels lower which can effect sleep.

Unfortunately it’s just a side effect we have to deal. Especially because you say you’re having great sleep, there’s not much you can do.

As for hunger, if you’re losing body fat and not hungry, that’s good!!

Bang on here –

happens to most people.

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thursday – Weight 224lb – so a little increase as usual and expected and I defo lot watery for it as normal.

Rest day

40 minutes cardio in weighted vest. –

Couple hours with Arilena this morning so charl could catch up on sleep as Arilena has been real poorly all week with hand, foot and mouth poor little thing. Its been awful for her.

all meals in

Busy work day

Chest/shoulders/calfs 2moro

on we go

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these are IMO not bad at all

ALT is expected to be higher if running an oral and even though your running TBJP health stack it may not keep you in range but stop your numbers from getting high were they are a cause for concern. The numbers you are seeing here are also seen when people run a course of antibiotics etc for example of even paracetamol etc for periods of time and training 36 hours prior to the test may of caused some elevated also.

So personally I would content with these numbers and happy to continue as planned but I would recheck numbers at week 6 to make sure they were not climbing any higher

Thanks, remember this is 4 weeks post oral. You would say it’s safe to stick with the anavar and dosages I mentioned? Should I double up on vital support for the duration?
If you don’t mind me asking, what kind of numbers do you see from competitors at peak push/ prep? [/quote]
Additional questions – how close to bloods being drawn did you train? Did you take the recommended 48 hours minimum out of the gym and no heavy lifting?

Again I see no issues with the planned cycle – there is nothing to say your. Numbers wont hold here or potentially just go up a small amount.

what you need to do is get bloods tested at week 4 of oral use and see what is going on while actually taking the drugs or at the end of this next 8 week phase.

Its so person depending its not really worth mentioning – ive seen myself do a full comp prep and then go party in ibiza for 5-6 days and my numbers been in range – However genetically my body handles drugs very well

Ive seen others run cycles were we are both using same drugs and doses from same supplier and my ALT is like 75 and there’s is 280 if I remember right – genetic response is huge between us all.

I would never really be concerned unless I saw numbers trending up over 125-150 if some one was on comp prep.

Lifestyle client I would not want to see these numbers go over 100 –

But there is no medical reasoning to this – its just my own opinion based on what I justify as acceptable in the short term based on goals etc

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couldnt agree more with all above –

In terms of 5 meals or 6 I personally feel for alot of people it doesn’t matter at all – What is more important is that it fits your life style and allows you to maximise adherence and digestion over all else.

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Effectiveness does not diminish at all, this is how first cycle should be done.

Run just above trt and ride out the progress until you need more.

I would only drop to trt here when you maintain after a push up then back up for a diet phase – rinse and repeat

Good work btw bud for being patient! Well done!

Fully agree with Kuba here –

Very well done on running this first cycle so well 🙂

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Why not do the sensible thing n get bloods done.

Find out exactly what Is going on and make n Accurate decision from there.

Hi Peter, bloods are booked in but just waiting on the gp appointment to take the blood.

Do you think I should stick to doing what I’m doing until the bloods come back and make a real informed decision or better to do something on what the body is saying and peoples past experiences?

Thanks[/quote]
I would always go by bloods if I can – there is no guess work then

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Wednesday – Weight – 221.5lb

Sleep was around 4-5 hours -Still not enough

high day today as above.

Trained legs and it was a very good session – strength up again

Lay ham curls – x 9F, x FOURs set
Extensions – x 12F, x FOURs set

Leg press – x 8, x 8, x 8 working warm ups then – x 12F, x 21F
1 leg leg press – work sets – x 10, x 10, x 9F

1 leg ham curl – working sets – x 8, x 8, x 9F

Seated leg press as hack hurt my knee – 4 x 10 reps with 10 second rest between sets in lockout – these were brutal but awesome

Job done – adductors hurt left knee also so left them

Need to get deep tissue on this left knee as its clicking alot and causing me some pain.

ruined after this and very much enjoyed it

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What does your high day look like now Hilly

Hey becks no real changes

egg whites, 150g COR plus berries and honey or sourdough and COR

Pre – TBJP vegan and white bagels or sourdough and jam

intra carbs and EAA

PWO – apple sauce organic and beef iso

Egg whites and 175g COR

chicken and 500g cooked jasmine rice or 50/50 rice and COR/sourdough

Beef and 500g cooked jasmine rice or 50/50 rice and COR/sourdogugh

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