[Hilly]

Hi Hilly, hope you don’t mind posting in your log seeing as this is one of your areas of expertise. at the end of pct (9 weeks total) if fertilty is the goal, would you have a good idea if fertility is in a good place via sperm analysis? Or would it need to be a period after ceasiatson of pct

No initial plans to use Hmg

Giving the body’s a break for a while while I figure out next steps,

Primary goal is restoring fertility function but if fertility is good then even better

Pct:dr deans protocol

Hcg

Tamoxifen

Aromasin

Clomid

Cheers bud

Hello my man,

so sperm maturation cycle is around 9-10 weeks.

so for me 9 weeks from coming off isn’t enough time to get a clear snap shop of what is actually going on in the body and I would wait 8-9 weeks from when you know you have recovered.

Now funds allowing and if its easy enough to get one done you could certainly get a sperm test done now to see what is going on and then again in 8 weeks time. This would be ideal scenario but if not then I would wait maybe another 6-8 weeks and test then.

As you have to remember if sperm has been low due to being shut down the body wont of started even producing any at all until the PCT drugs went in and then it will build up slowly so its not going to give you a true clear picture of what you are likely going to get if done now [/quote]

Thanks a million bud![/quote]
My pleasure bud

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[Hilly]

Thanks Tom

I switched to jp full range about a week ago

So let’s see on the next blood work

it will defo come down then

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Ive got an IGTV on sleep health you may find useful to watch i did for my clients 🙂

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i would do another 2-3 weeks and then get back to growing personally

thanks Hilly for the advice a 5-6 week diet was the initial plan and i’m fine to carry on going because my lifts are still progressing or retaining numbers on everything[/quote]
i would defo push on a little then in this case

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I agree with J in that this is aimed at more Gen pop.

However another thing to consider is how that individual handles coming out of a diet phase no matter how serious they are and what level they are at. Ideally we want to be moving to a surplus and there is no real need to sit at maintain kcal unless some one struggles with food increases and over eats potentially.

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there is no need to take a break after say 6 weeks for example.

However over time your body does seem to adapt to the insulin dose and you may become resistant in the sense of you need more and more to achieve the same effect.

The problem with discussing this is – the research that shows this is obviously only done on people with actual diabetes – not abusing the drug for our benefits.

so we cant actually say for sure in healthy people who are training, supplementing for health and eating well etc etc will run into the same issues as a diabetic.

However logically you could presume if over time diabetics need more and more then as we are all humans we may end up with a similar issue.

The difference here however is that we can simply stop and our bodies will work fine without it.

in reality though none of us should need to be running it year round as when we move to diet phase etc we are likely not going to use so you will get a break here 🙂

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thousands will of doubled there TRT dose- this is moving to a cycle bud

I have done both with clients – if I was trying to build muscle I would go wth doubling TRT dose

If I was cutting and more focused on the look I would add the var in.

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Sorry for hijacking this thread for making another question. However, its related.
Is there a limit to how many uis I should take in one shot? 3/4 iu is max? I plan to take 8 iu m/w/f in an off season. 🙂

medically they seem happy to give bolus shots when trying to achieve s certain goal.

For me anything over 6iu MWF I would be splitting as you’ll feel real groggy the next day

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Wed – Weight – 214lb – little spike which is strange but no big deal – I expected a little drop here.

High day today and leg day – still havnt heard back from AJ regarding changes from check in yesterday.

Legs was brutal and the pump was crazy but a great session – loving the current split I am working on.

lay ham curls – x 11F, x 14F
Extensions – x 12f, x 14F
leg press feet high and close – x 8F, x 20F
Split squats – x 10, x 10, x 9F
seated ham curls – x 10, x 10, x 6F
Hack squat – x 9F – then 4 x 8 with 12-15 second rest between each set
Adductor with pause in contraction – x 15F, x 12F

Totally ruined, legs were so pumped it was crazy

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[Hilly]

Hi Hilly, hope you don’t mind posting in your log seeing as this is one of your areas of expertise. at the end of pct (9 weeks total) if fertilty is the goal, would you have a good idea if fertility is in a good place via sperm analysis? Or would it need to be a period after ceasiatson of pct

No initial plans to use Hmg

Giving the body’s a break for a while while I figure out next steps,

Primary goal is restoring fertility function but if fertility is good then even better

Pct:dr deans protocol

Hcg

Tamoxifen

Aromasin

Clomid

Cheers bud

Hello my man,

so sperm maturation cycle is around 9-10 weeks.

so for me 9 weeks from coming off isn’t enough time to get a clear snap shop of what is actually going on in the body and I would wait 8-9 weeks from when you know you have recovered.

Now funds allowing and if its easy enough to get one done you could certainly get a sperm test done now to see what is going on and then again in 8 weeks time. This would be ideal scenario but if not then I would wait maybe another 6-8 weeks and test then.

As you have to remember if sperm has been low due to being shut down the body wont of started even producing any at all until the PCT drugs went in and then it will build up slowly so its not going to give you a true clear picture of what you are likely going to get if done now

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[Hilly]

your own t3 production should be starting to pick up now.

Are you keeping steps up – 9-11kg spread throughout the day will help alot here IME

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Anything different in your day to day life.

Sickness

Flu

Pain meds

Cold meds

Anything else

When you say your normally under 100. Is this on this total dose of drugs n compounds ?

I believe was a couple nights of diphenhydramine before bed, but other than nothing different sticks out. Yes <100 on cruise/blast dosages.

Only changes between bloods I can think of is nattokinase and was trying a new joint supplement. Attached a photo of the label

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Have your blasts been this total mg and these compounds ?

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This a new peak mg but not significant. Only 100mg higher. Have used all compounds here[/quote]

Seems pretty strange to me then TBH – I cant think why there would be such a change if literally the only change in any variable is 100mg extra total drugs [/quote]

I’m not sure if a lab error could be the issue if that’s even a thing? That’s the only logical thing here unless my last batch of Telmisartan or metformin is Tylenol [/quote]
its unlikely but not unheard of

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And how often would you add the 1x 25 mins cardio in, x1 a week then increase as needed?

for me i would start 4 – 5 x a week

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Yup As J says the key is just to take it.

There are lots of theories and reasoning behind when and how that can be argued but in reality the ultimate key is to take it when you will remember 🙂

some simple thoughts when using lower doses – pre bed can help improve recovery/sleep etc so if growing this may be optimal and is easy to remember

If dieting potentially pre fasted cardio can aid in fat loss and again is easy to remember as prt of your morning routine

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Tuesday – check in day – Weight 213.5lb – down 0.25 from last week – look is pretty dam good still – pics to follow

Cardio – 25 minutes @ 125 BPM on wake with abs and posing.

All normal meals in

Trained arms today and was a very good session.

EZ bar cable curl to forehead SS with tri Push down – x 15, x 15, x 12-13F

Ez bar cable curl – x 11F, x 14F
OH rope extension – x 13F, x 16F

Dual D handle bicep curl – x 10, x 10, x 8F
Cross body tricep push down – x 10, x 10, x 9F

Preacher machine – x 13F, x FOURs set
Tricep extension machine – x 16F, x FOURs set

1 arm preach machine – 3 sets to failure with no rest between arms
1 arm cable PD – 3 sets to failure with no rest between arms

Very good session – HUGE pump and all felt great – no posing as had a new client call to do

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