[Hilly]

Person and goal depending.

How is your digestion when mixing
What is BG like on wake and post meals etc if there is a potential issue here to consider
when is the meal
What is total fat amount for day.

Alot of people get on better with lower fat amounts in higher carb meals

when food is on the lower side and output is higher having some fats in meals is better for BG control and keeping things more stable during the day especially when very lean

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[Hilly]

I would just double my last 3-4 days doses and then go away for the week – all will be fine

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[Hilly]

Thanks Peter. Looking more to control oestrogen during the push. I still have 6-10 weeks left of pushing.

From your experience how much would 100mg primo reduce your oestrogen?

its very very person depending especially with primo it seems – some get a very very strong effect and others a milder one – the effect seems more individual to people than with other drugs IME.

So its really about bringing in a dose – then re checking blood work.

are you getting high E2 sides? As if not then I wouldnt worry TBH.

If so – then add in in 75mg to the 75mg test and re asses. You want E2 to be on the higher side not the lower side when pushing

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[Hilly]

so there is alot to debate here.

E2 sensitive in what way – did you just get high E2 numbers but no sides? If so then dont stress it

Did you get sides? If so then were was your E2 number – how high.

at 750mg E2 for alot is going to be pretty high so your going to need a pretty high dose potentially between 4-800mg.

For me this is were I would favour EQ all day as it has a much better ability to lower E2 and you won’t need as much.

the other things that will help quite well:

More frequent dosing – Daily for example would be best or EOD minimum.
keeping body fat levels lower.

Its really about accumulating these options to find what allows you to get your E2 in a place that prevents sides (if your getting them that is)

Examples

For some – just dosing MWF with 100mg mast MWF will work totally fine while lean.

for others they may need to micro dose daily and be lean.

Then others will just need something stronger like EQ –

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[Hilly]

You don’t need to do it in advance but you can double up vital while away

Thanks for your reply bud! That’s great, so 8 tabs morning and 8 evening? [/quote]
personally i would go to 6 tabs in the morning and 6 in evening when away and keep it there for 4-6 weeks post trip

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[Hilly]

TBH this doesnt make any sense to me,

Your ALT went from 93 ons arms to 350 off them.

When did you check it on the arms – mid cycle? End of cycle?

Could possibly be stress built up over time and ALT kept trending up during the cycle maybe?

Confuses me as well mate. It was 93 at peak cycle on the 8th week of 15mg. Only thing I changed after I stopped rad was added cirrus in for joints and reduced NAC from 1800 to 600. I wonder if I reduced NAC to soon while rad was still in the system.

Have you seen it this high on peak steroid cycles?[/quote]

yes and higher with the odd person.

ive also seen people not related to this game within a medical setting with numbers of 5-700 [/quote]

Thanks Peter,

To update I had a full liver panel and all is normal with the exception of alt being 80 but that is perfectly acceptable to me considering it was 350 2 weeks ago! I basically added 500mg Tudca and upped my NAC from 600 to 1200mg daily!

Think it’s safe to add in a oral (tbol) for 6 weeks? Will use 1.8g NAC and 1g Tudca to be sure[/quote]
I think its potential that last reading was skewed/error maybe

Any way the only way to find out if ok to run the tool in reality is to run it and check bloods in 6 weeks again mate – then you have that info banked for future

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[Hilly]

I think this would be totally fine personally yeh and is what i would be doing for some things due to injuries and kit if setting up something like this

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[Hilly]

Firstly i would get leaner and then add in 100mg primo –

However are we discussing this for the TRT range or for moving to cycle.

Also mFYI the HCG is likely spiking E2 and could be the main issue here –

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Tuesday. -Now low – 200.75lb – so a good drop

Pics – defo leaner/dryer again.

Felt surprisingly good most of the day but the water seemed to start kicking out of me harder about 4pm and its been a difficult evening energy wise – struggle to focus on things etc annoyingly.

On wake – 3 rounds posing, 30 minutes cardio @130BPM – plus abs – Steps will be 13-14k

Trained delts/chest – wasn’t a terrible session and didn’t feel bad at all during it.

Standing form focused side delts – x 10, x 10, x 10, x 9F
Dead stop shoulder press – x 10, x 8, x 8, x 8F then 2 back off constant sets 15-20 reps
Rear delt pec dec – x 15, x 12, x 10F
Rope front raise – x 15, x 12, x 9F
FST7 side laterals seated – 7 sets 8 reps with 10 seconds rest

chest
Pec dec – 3 x 12-15 reps
Incline press – 3 x 12-15 reps

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[Hilly]

You can run a var only cycle yes – many many recreational users do for holidays etc every year – ive seen literally hundreds do it with good results at maintaining muscle mass and getting a harder look as they diet.

its far from optimal however and a low dose Test cycle would be better.

Does your partner compete? As I would not be keen on any female taking an AAS unless it was truly needed – just my opinion of course

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[Hilly]

Im sure ive seen Jordan post there is potential damage to the fats when turning into butter yes as he is a big fan of sunflower seeds so has done some research

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[Hilly]

I would look to TBJP performance fuel or Sustain – start with 30g in 1L water

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[Hilly]

I defo would not be trying this personally and surely your wife won’t have an issue with injecting as this stuff will help you fix your low sperm count and improve chances of having baby.

There should be no limits to what needs doing for this I would imagine – there wasn’t for myself and my partner and now having my daughter all was worth it.

I was injecting HMG and HCG EOD for around 14 months so thats 6 days a week lol

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[Hilly]

Thanks again Peter and yeah we are wanting to get pregnant soon as possible but I had low sperm count before starting gear but still would try improve it, taking gear probably isn’t the best idea 🤣 and I’ll look into thankyou!

Currently mild blast will be returning to trt, not planning on coming off

Thanks for the info, I’m planning on taking it long term for fertility

Are you on Trt ? Cycle ?[/quote]

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Defo need HMG bud and HCG – check my journal on here for fertility info etc and also my IGTV on how I fixed my sperm

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Monday – 202lb today so weight held but a much tighter/dryer look.

Playing around with water and Aj has me at 10L which sucks big style and I feel dreadful on an afternoon while im flushing hard.

we did legs today early and it was just pump stuff etc again too see how I respond n look over next few days

Meals in
supplements in
Water in

Cardio/posing/abs done on wake- this all takes around 75-90 minutes in itself

legs – Nothing to failure – all controlled contractions

lay ham curls – x 15, x 12, x 10, x 8
extensions – x 15, x 12, x 10, x 10
Hack – x 10, x10, x 10, x 8
seated ham curl – x 10, x10, x 10
1 leg extensions – x 10, x 10, x10
Leg press – x 20, x 20, x 20
lunges – 2 x 24 paces

Everything felts dry and a little off as expected.

on we go

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